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Mike Mayock on Dorsey, Ryan, etc.

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Long, who can play end in a 4-3 defense and linebacker in a 3-4, has emerged as the best option if the Dolphins think Beck -- drafted in the second round last year -- is their guy.

A number of early mock drafts had LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey going to Miami with the No. 1 pick. Now, the general consensus is the 6-foot-1, 310-pound Dorsey would not fit in the 3-4 defensive scheme the Dolphins are expected to eventually run.

"He's what they call a three-technique in a 4-3, where he plays over the guard,' Mayock said. "That's where he is, I believe, at his best. I would compare him to a Warren Sapp -- very quick, great explosion. In a 3-4, he's not going to be a defensive end. They play over the tackles and he's not long enough and big enough for that.

"I think he could play nose tackle, but you're probably not taking advantage of what he does best. He's not a 330-pound Vince Wilfork."
Parcells is known to favor big linemen on both sides of the ball, which would likely eliminate Dorsey, or even USC's Sedrick Ellis.

Ryan is the only quarterback who will enter the combine with a first-round grade. Of course, logic and draft history aren't exactly on Miami's side given that Miami doesn't have a player on its roster who was drafted between 1998-2003. This is also a team that went 23 years without picking a quarterback in the first three rounds.

A new regime, though, could bring a new philosophy. And there have some who have compared Ryan favorably with the only other quarterback Parcells has drafted No. 1 overall -- Drew Bledsoe.

"I know Matt Ryan as well as probably anybody does," Mayock said. "I've seen the kid play since high school. From an on-the-field perspective, he's got an above-average arm. He can make all the throws. He can make the throws with accuracy. He has a classic release. He's 6-5, 230 pounds and he's what I call sneaky athletic."

Ryan, who played half of his junior year on a broken foot, won't win any 40-yard dashes. But he knows how to slide and buy time in the pocket.
However, particularly when talking about the No. 1 pick, it's not enough to know how far, fast and accurate a quarterback can deliver the ball.

"Off the field, he has a passion for the game of football," Mayock said of Ryan. "He's got a tremendous work ethic. He's tough. And he's a true leader. When I look at the first pick in the draft, where you're going to spend $30-$35 million guaranteed on a player, you'd better not miss. One of the things I'd be looking at is how important is the game of football to this kid I'm about to hand more money to than he's ever imagined in his life. Certain kids will react certain ways to it.

"I think Matt's the kind of kid that would say, 'OK, that's pretty cool. But wouldn't it be more cool to go win a Super Bowl.' I really believe he'll be the face of somebody's franchise and down the road, he'll be an All-Pro type of quarterback."

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080219/SPORTS/802190329/1002/SPORTS
 
It would really surprise me if we picked Ryan. When Ireland said "we're open for business" as it relates to that first pick, it seems to me, that pretty much meant that the top qb, a potential "franchise qb", wasn't on the top of our list.
 
interesting he says ryan is the only qb with a first round grade.

the brohm bandwagon is going to blow up.
 
It would really surprise me if we picked Ryan. When Ireland said "we're open for business" as it relates to that first pick, it seems to me, that pretty much meant that the top qb, a potential "franchise qb", wasn't on the top of our list.

also he mentioned a kid that loves the game, well thats Long for you. you know he has money as his dad is rich, you know he is good when the patriots themselves are intrigued but when the guy says he wnats to prove to ppl he isnt Howie long but better, to me that speaks volumes. As buchanon said, i dont care what it takes ima run well do well in the combine to get that money cuz 4.5 to 4.4 is money, a 37 vert vs a 41 is money. all he cares for is money (the retired buchanon for those who didnt see he said it today on cold pizza i believe it was). thats the diff btw good and being great. Im not goin to lie id think the same the money the money but i love teh game n want to be best at it just as much if not more then the money. Long seems like that type of a guy.
 
Chris Long Played DE in the 3-4 in college sometimes so why cant he do the Same in the NFL
 
I must have missed that part.. can you show it to me...

Mike Mayock "does" have Matt Ryan rated as the #1 overall best player, period, in the whole draft. Yes, he did, I saw him say that too.

I actually am "for" taking Matt Ryan. I can live with Chris Long, but I believe that Matt Ryan is more worth the #1 pick, the money, and the one who can change the face of the franchise...Chris Long will just "continue" what we already were...a good defensive team. We stopped being a threat to score once Marino retired. We need to bring that "threat to score" thing back to MIA...and that is Matt Ryan.
 
Mike Mayock "does" have Matt Ryan rated as the #1 overall best player, period, in the whole draft. Yes, he did, I saw him say that too.

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show me.. otherwise I don't believe you. I think you heard what you wanted to hear, not what was said. Not even mayock can be so stupid as to believe ryan is the BPA of this draft, you miss heard.
 
I would be a lot less shocked if they said, "With the first pick in the NFL draft, the Miami Dolphins select MATT RYAN," compared to the total shock I felt last year when they announced TED GINN's name, and not Brady Quinn's.

I don't think there is any one consensus top guy. Yeah, we could go the safe route and take Chris Long, but the biggest need we have is at QB. I think the best scenario would be for us to trade down a few spots and maybe tell the Atlanta Falcons were are taking Ryan, which might cause them to offer us a lot in return so they can still get Ryan.

I don't see anyone after Ryan being that great, unless you are going to take a chance on Flacco. Mayock may have a good point about taking Ryan first, although I don't usually agree with him.
 
show me.. otherwise I don't believe you. I think you heard what you wanted to hear, not what was said. Not even mayock can be so stupid as to believe ryan is the BPA of this draft, you miss heard.

http://www.emqb.com/nfl-networks-mike-mayock-debuts-top-10-prospects-heading-into-scouting-combine/

Mike is heavy on the linemen this year. And I have to agree. Speaking generally, it’s a great class at those positions. As you can see, seven of his Top 10 prospects are offensive or defensive linemen. But Boston College QB Matt Ryan impressed him enough to make Matt not only the top-rated quarterback, but also the top-rated player. Period. It will be interesting to see how this group changes after the Combine.
 
mike mayock stated on nfl total access tonight that matt ryan is the best player in the draft and a franchise qb.
 
also i am starting to wonder if all these players are being dropped to make way for ryan's huge contract
 
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