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Mike Mayock on Matt Ryan; compared to Big Ben

Good lets keep hyping him up so that everyone expects us to take him and then we will have teams like the Falcons trading us there entire draft for him.
 
It would be really nice if Ryan could pull away from Brohm and everyone else even further down. Some teams in the top 10 really need QB help (Atl, KC, Balt) and we might be able to finagle something with one of them.

Still, we could surprise everyone and just outright take the guy, there seems to be a good amount of opposition to this, but its really not a farfetched idea.
 
TexanPhinatic said:
It would be really nice if Ryan could pull away from Brohm and everyone else even further down. Some teams in the top 10 really need QB help (Atl, KC, Balt) and we might be able to finagle something with one of them.

Still, we could surprise everyone and just outright take the guy, there seems to be a good amount of opposition to this, but its really not a farfetched idea.
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I wouldn't say it is farfetched but I dont think we really want to spend the number one pick on him. I think we need to do all we can to trade out of this pick and aquire more picks. I like Matt Ryan but like I said we have a lot of needs right now and I have faith in Beck.
 
Madman29 said:
I wouldn't say it is farfetched but I dont think we really want to spend the number one pick on him. I think we need to do all we can to trade out of this pick and aquire more picks. I like Matt Ryan but like I said we have a lot of needs right now and I have faith in Beck.
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Trading would be optimal yes, but if it just doesnt work we will have some tough choices to make. At the least, he inspires more confidence (in me) than Alex Smith and Aaron Rogers did when we were drafting at #2.

This is just one of those drafts where despite a good amount of talent, there is no clear cut #1, we just have to do the best we can.
 
I agree, I would take him over Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers anyday. Your right there is no clear cut #1 but hopefully the combine will change that. But yeah i agree with you.
 
Madman29 said:
I agree, I would take him over Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers anyday. Your right there is no clear cut #1 but hopefully the combine will change that. But yeah i agree with you.
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how do u know u would take him over Aaron Rodgers he hasnt played in any games except like one or two and he has played pretty good
 
Alex Smith was a gimmick offense QB

he is gonna get killed next year
 
#1dolphinsfan said:
how do u know u would take him over Aaron Rodgers he hasnt played in any games except like one or two and he has played pretty good
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Exactly so neither has pro experience and I would take Matt Ryan over him. Im not saying that Ryan is better because nobody knows that yet. I am saying that if Rodgers and Ryan were in the same draft i would prefer Ryan.
 
Madman29 said:
I agree, I would take him over Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers anyday. Your right there is no clear cut #1 but hopefully the combine will change that. But yeah i agree with you.
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You'd take Ryan over Rodgers because he's taller? Other than that, it's Rodgers by a mile IMO.
 
Madman29 said:
Exactly so neither has pro experience and I would take Matt Ryan over him. Im not saying that Ryan is better because nobody knows that yet. I am saying that if Rodgers and Ryan were in the same draft i would prefer Ryan.
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Because... ?
 
General Tso said:
You'd take Ryan over Rodgers because he's taller? Other than that, it's Rodgers by a mile IMO.
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I didnt say i would take Ryan because he is taller... I think Ryan is a better QB than Rodgers and Smith. I mean if your comparing Rodgers now vs Ryan now then yea it would make more sense to take Rodgers because he has been learning a pro system and has been mentored by Brett Favre.
 
Matt Ryan has the intangibles that all the great QB's have. Now im not saying by any means that Ryan will be a great QB but he certaintly has the potential otherwise he wouldnt even be considered for the #1 pick.
 
Madman29 said:
Matt Ryan has the intangibles that all the great QB's have. Now im not saying by any means that Ryan will be a great QB but he certaintly has the potential otherwise he wouldnt even be considered for the #1 pick.
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At this time in 2005 many people projected Rodgers at #1 to SF and look where he ended up falling.

So far the only thing I've heard about Ryan is "intangibles". How about a QB with tangibles, i.e. results? There is no comparison to Rodgers' results in college compared to Ryan's one solid, though unspectacular, season. Give me a QB that throws for a high completion percentage, good TD-INT ratio, sets several college records and puts up big performances in big games over a QB with "intangibles" any day.

BTW... what exactly are the intangibles that Ryan has and Rodgers didn't? Rodgers is more of the fiery competitor than Ryan appears to be. Ryan throws a pick and laughs about it on the sidelines (see this year's bowl game), Rodgers throws 'em (though much less often than Ryan I might add) and has the look you see in a Manning, Marino, etc that says "I'm going to go right back at that SOB next time out, how dare he pick off one of my passes!". (Disclaimer: not comparing Rodgers' game to those hall of famers, just saying he has a similar demeanor after making a mistake).
 
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