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Mike Munchak fired because he refused to make staff changes

He was right not to. Good for Munch.

They asked him to fire his OC even though the guy had done a GREAT job of developing Jake Locker. Locker was actually playing extremely well early in the season before he got hurt, and the Titans were red hot. Then Locker got hurt and they tanked the entire damn season because Ryan Fitzpatrick is downright awful. He is Mark buttfumble bad.

In a way, I'm glad Joe Philbin is standing up for Mike Sherman. It's not Mike's fault he has an OL that can't block anybody and running backs who straight up blow.



EDIT: :sidelol: they actually put a feature on the forum that changes "Mark S.anchez" to "Mark buttfumble"

I'm laughing so hard right now.
 
Standing by Jerry Gray I bet.

Here is the deal in relation to the Fins. If Ross says to Joe he wants him to keep on, but fire Sherm...and Joe refuses...Ross could fire Joe. However, here is my deal...IF Ross appreciates Joe THAT MUCH, why not just let Philbin have the OC he wants? There is a disconnect there for me.

I am not a Joe backer and think he is a bad coach, but if Philbin really thinks his team is better off with Mike Sherman as OC, just let him have him.
 
Hayden Fox said:
Standing by Jerry Gray I bet.

Here is the deal in relation to the Fins. If Ross says to Joe he wants him to keep on, but fired Sherm...and Joe refuses...Ross could fire Joe. However, he is my deal...IF Ross appreciates Joe THAT MUCH, why not just let Philbin have the OC he wants? There is a disconnect there for me.

I am not a Joe backer and think he is a bad coach, but if Philbin really thinks his team is better off with Mike Sherman as OC, just let him have him.
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Absolutely. It is insane that the owner would try to micromanage the assistant coaches of the coach he hired and thinks is the right man for the job.

I'm hopeful that what really happened this week is that when Ross got there, Joe presented 'his case' for why the coaching staff was dealt a bad hand by the GM. I really do. Because if Ross finally understands that the GM must get axed, that's one huge step in the right direction.
 
Excellent point. Here is the deal, if Joe allows others to dictate how the team should be coached then Joe should be fired or Joe should resign. Simple as that. Aside from the fact that many of us here are not satisfied with the direction of this team, loyalty is a big part of being a man, of integrity, character, and about being a leader. If Joe allows Ross to pressure him to fire Sherman it speaks volumes about who Joe is as a man and ultimately as a coach.

He would allow his subordinates to take the fall for what is ultimately his responsibility. That is his job as a coach. You never know… this may be the reason Ross is having such a hard time with announcing his decision…

We'll have to wait and see...
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Absolutely. It is insane that the owner would try to micromanage the assistant coaches of the coach he hired and thinks is the right man for the job.

I'm hopeful that what really happened this week is that when Ross got there, Joe presented 'his case' for why the coaching staff was dealt a bad hand by the GM. I really do. Because if Ross finally understands that the GM must get axed, that's one huge step in the right direction.
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Mando foreshadowing?

Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 12m
Remember this: RT @JasonPhilCole: Word out of #Titans is Munchak was fired after declining to make significant changes to coaching staff.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Absolutely. It is insane that the owner would try to micromanage the assistant coaches of the coach he hired and thinks is the right man for the job.

I'm hopeful that what really happened this week is that when Ross got there, Joe presented 'his case' for why the coaching staff was dealt a bad hand by the GM. I really do. Because if Ross finally understands that the GM must get axed, that's one huge step in the right direction.
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I would be for Joe like I was earlier, but the loses to the Jets and Bills really soured me to him.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Absolutely. It is insane that the owner would try to micromanage the assistant coaches of the coach he hired and thinks is the right man for the job.

I'm hopeful that what really happened this week is that when Ross got there, Joe presented 'his case' for why the coaching staff was dealt a bad hand by the GM. I really do. Because if Ross finally understands that the GM must get axed, that's one huge step in the right direction.
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Exactly, how long do we have to have a team where the Head Coach has one vision for the team & the GM has a totally different one. All this talk about continuity, how about we get a HC & GM who will work together. Whether that's just firing the GM & bringing in a guy that will be on same page as Philbin or fire them both and bring in new guys. Just get it fixed.
 
Hayden Fox said:
Standing by Jerry Gray I bet.

Here is the deal in relation to the Fins. If Ross says to Joe he wants him to keep on, but fire Sherm...and Joe refuses...Ross could fire Joe. However, here is my deal...IF Ross appreciates Joe THAT MUCH, why not just let Philbin have the OC he wants? There is a disconnect there for me.

I am not a Joe backer and think he is a bad coach, but if Philbin really thinks his team is better off with Mike Sherman as OC, just let him have him.
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I actually agree. Although I would love to see a younger, more creative OC, I have given this a lot of thought. If we keep Joe and bring in a new OC and miss the playoffs again next year, there may be a question of whether it is Joe or the new OC. Just adds more confusion. If Ross want Philbin and Philbin wants Sherman, let him have him. Joe has one more year to bring this team to the playoffs, if he can't, he will be gone. Let him right his own ship or sink it on his own.
 
Billick was saying the same thing in regards to this, the coach is supposed to be the expert so he should have final say in this matter. Billick said as soon as the coach lets somebody else decide who will be running the offense then the coach won't be the coach long anyway.

Philbin is in a tough position with Sherman, I'm sure he's smart enough to know he's down to his last season so even if he would like an upgrade the new guy likely wouldn't be enough of an upgrade in time to save him.
 
At this point, I just want some closure. Fire them all, keep them all, fire some and keep some, whatever it is just make the decision already. Stop dragging it out.
 
If you have to force your HC to fire his staff then he shouldn't be your HC. If we only get rid of Sherman when Philbin doesn't want to then that's a desperate lame duck move that won't stop the inevitable from happening next year.
 
Nublar7 said:
At this point, I just want some closure. Fire them all, keep them all, fire some and keep some, whatever it is just make the decision already. Stop dragging it out.
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Maybe they are waiting for the 49ers to lose and talk to Mangini about an FO gig?
 
Loyalty is to be commended. However, there is loyalty and misguided loyalty.

It is my understanding that Mike Sherman has two relatives on the coaching staff. We don't know if those men are capable position coaches or not. We do they will never be fired as long as Mike Sherman is there. Nepotism is never a good thing. I watched nepotism destroy Florida State toward the end of Bobby Bowden's tenure. I watched it bring down Mike Shanahan in Washington this year. If Philbin wants to keep Mike Sherman as his OC, that's his choice. Get rid of the nepotism, fire Sherman's sons-in-law, and get the best coaches available in here at those position. Being the offensive coordinator of a 7-9 and 8-8 team does not give you the license to train your sons-in-law on the dime of Miami Dolphins fans.
 
I would welcome a change I'm sure none will be made though
 
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