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Dolphins center Mike Pouncey doesn’t know which quarterback he’ll snap to at the start of the season, but if it’s rookie Ryan Tannehill, Pouncey says the Dolphins will be just fine.

In fact, Pouncey said on NFL Network that Tannehill isn’t just ahead of most rookies, he’s ahead of the veterans on the Dolphins’ offense because he played for Dolphins offensive coordinator Mike Sherman at Texas A&M. And Tannehill is the one helping the veterans learn Sherman’s system.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ys-dolphins-are-learning-from-ryan-tannehill/
 
I would have a lot more confidence in Tannehill if he tore it up in college under this system, but since he didn't I seriously doubt he is ready to start it in the NFL.
 
He will need much more than knowledge of the system to lead this team. I don't expect to see him starting anytime soon
 
AdamC13 said:
I would have a lot more confidence in Tannehill if he tore it up in college under this system, but since he didn't I seriously doubt he is ready to start it in the NFL.
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You know...he had a QB rating in the 130's...threw 28 touchdowns against 14 pics and completed 61 percent of his passes. Football is still a team game and even having a great quarterback will only get you so far if the rest of the team is lacking (Ask Dan Marino).

I hardly would say he was average in college, he played quite well, particulary for a guy with a limited number of starts after playing most of his college career at receiver.
 
BlueFin said:
You know...he had a QB rating in the 130's...threw 28 touchdowns against 14 pics and completed 61 percent of his passes. Football is still a team game and even having a great quarterback will only get you so far if the rest of the team is lacking (Ask Dan Marino).

I hardly would say he was average in college, he played quite well, particulary for a guy with a limited number of starts after playing most of his college career at receiver.
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You know...Texas A&M was ranked in the Top 10 by most publications heading into his senior season. They had talent on the team, yet finished 6-7. Tannehill had three 3 interception games (lost one of those games by 1 point, another by 2), threw interceptions in 9 out of 13 games and built a lot of his stats against a single opponent in Baylor (6 TD passes) who had one of the worst pass defenses in college last year. Did the players around him step up? Probably not, but isn't part of the criteria in judging a QB his ability to elevate the play of those around him? I think that is called leadership.

Cam Newton had "zero" starts and thrown only 12 passes before leading an Auburn team to the national championship in 2010. If I recall correctly Auburn wasn't in any top 20 rankings to begin the year in 2010.

Tannehill's QB rating last year was good enough to finish "56th" among college QBs last year out of 115 QBs ranked. Being ranked 56 out of 115 "is average." Sure you want to use that as proof he played quite well?
And a 29/15 TD/int ratio with a 61% completion pales in comparison to other QBs (including many QBs not even drafted)...Russell Wilson 33/4 TD/int, 72.8%...RG3 37/6, 72.4%...Luck 37/10, 71.3%...Barkley 39/7, 69.1%...Weeden 37/13, 72.3%...the list is long that outplayed Tannehill.

As far as experience...Tannehill is the son of a coach, played QB in high school, red-shirted as a QB, 5th year senior, competed for the QB position all 4 years at Texas A&M so I assume he worked his ass off trying to earn the QB position, never missed a QB meeting (said he skipped WR meetings if the two conflicted), will be 24 years old July 27th, had 19 starts, threw 764 passes in the system being installed for the Dolphins this year. I would also think playing WR would have helped him understanding the QB position having insights most other QBs don't have when it comes to the secondary. It wasn't like he is Mormon and was on a mission.

I just hope Tannehill is a late bloomer. I'll be rooting for him since he has on a Dolphin uniform. However, if the Jets or some other team spent the #8 pick on Tannehill I would be mocking that team for doing it.
 
LikeUntoGod said:
More of this "he knows the playbook" crap.

I'm sure that every back up QB in the NFL knows their play book.
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It's not so much about learning the playbook in the NFL, because like you said, everyone knows it.

It's more about understanding reads, understanding timing, and knowing how to make changes (pre-snap) based on the defensive alignment.

I am sure these are the concepts that Tannehill understands in this offense that Pouncey was referring to since Tannehill has already played in it.

The others have yet to see game action in Sherman's new offense.
 
AdamC13 said:
You know...Texas A&M was ranked in the Top 10 by most publications heading into his senior season. They had talent on the team, yet finished 6-7. Tannehill had three 3 interception games (lost one of those games by 1 point, another by 2), threw interceptions in 9 out of 13 games and built a lot of his stats against a single opponent in Baylor (6 TD passes) who had one of the worst pass defenses in college last year. Did the players around him step up? Probably not, but isn't part of the criteria in judging a QB his ability to elevate the play of those around him? I think that is called leadership.

Cam Newton had "zero" starts and thrown only 12 passes before leading an Auburn team to the national championship in 2010. If I recall correctly Auburn wasn't in any top 20 rankings to begin the year in 2010.

Tannehill's QB rating last year was good enough to finish "56th" among college QBs last year out of 115 QBs ranked. Being ranked 56 out of 115 "is average." Sure you want to use that as proof he played quite well?
And a 29/15 TD/int ratio with a 61% completion pales in comparison to other QBs (including many QBs not even drafted)...Russell Wilson 33/4 TD/int, 72.8%...RG3 37/6, 72.4%...Luck 37/10, 71.3%...Barkley 39/7, 69.1%...Weeden 37/13, 72.3%...the list is long that outplayed Tannehill.

As far as experience...Tannehill is the son of a coach, played QB in high school, red-shirted as a QB, 5th year senior, competed for the QB position all 4 years at Texas A&M so I assume he worked his ass off trying to earn the QB position, never missed a QB meeting (said he skipped WR meetings if the two conflicted), will be 24 years old July 27th, had 19 starts, threw 764 passes in the system being installed for the Dolphins this year. I would also think playing WR would have helped him understanding the QB position having insights most other QBs don't have when it comes to the secondary. It wasn't like he is Mormon and was on a mission.

I just hope Tannehill is a late bloomer. I'll be rooting for him since he has on a Dolphin uniform. However, if the Jets or some other team spent the #8 pick on Tannehill I would be mocking that team for doing it.
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Why do people keep forgetting to include the year Cam Newton played at Blinn Junior College where he threw 336 passes and led them to a national championship in 2009?

Tannehill's completion percentage suffers because his receivers were credited with dropping between 65 and 79 (depending on who is doing the counting) passes in 2011.

I'm not sure where you are getting that Tannehill competed for the QB position all four years at Texas A&M because that is not true.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...t-quarterback-wide-receiver-experience-041712
After redshirting his freshman season, head coach Mike Sherman sat Tannehill and fellow Aggies quarterback Jerrod Johnson down in his office.

“He told us that Stephen McGee would be the starter in 2008 and that one of us would be the backup. He also asked if we’d be willing to give wideout a shot,” Tannehill recalls. “I figured, ‘Well, I certainly don’t want to sit the bench the entire season. Why not?’ I just wanted to get on the field.”

So, Tannehill made the move to wide receiver. And guess what? At 6-4, he was pretty darn good. He caught 55 passes for 844 yards in his redshirt freshman season, the first time playing the position. The following year, he had 46 receptions for 609 yards and scored four touchdowns with Johnson playing quarterback.

“I loved playing receiver, but I never really viewed myself as a receiver," Tannehil said. "I was always a quarterback playing receiver. I didn't attend a single wide receivers' meeting while in college, either. That was important. Coach Sherman always had me in the quarterback meetings, even when I was the third-string quarterback and a starting wide receiver.”

He practiced all week at quarterback, learned how to operate Sherman's offense inside and out, then went out and starred at the wide receiver spot on Saturdays.
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DzakkH13 said:
It's not so much about learning the playbook in the NFL, because like you said, everyone knows it.

It's more about understanding reads, understanding timing, and knowing how to make changes (pre-snap) based on the defensive alignment.

I am sure these are the concepts that Tannehill understands in this offense that Pouncey was referring to since Tannehill has already played in it.

The others have yet to see game action in Sherman's new offense.
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And Tannehill has yet to throw a pass or play a down in the new offense. It is NOT the Texas A&M offense, I do not expect to see our QBs playing in the spread option which was used at A&M. For some reason a lot of people that have watched Tannehill's "hightlight" either have not noticed or mentioned the fact that he did not line up under center most of the time, he took a shotgun snap in the spread option which he also ran out of.

The bigger thing is that Tannehill has also not played a down in the NFL while Garrard and Moore are NFL veterans.
 
I can't wait to see how Tannehill looks in the preseason games.
 
LikeUntoGod said:
And Tannehill has yet to throw a pass or play a down in the new offense. It is NOT the Texas A&M offense, I do not expect to see our QBs playing in the spread option which was used at A&M. For some reason a lot of people that have watched Tannehill's "hightlight" either have not noticed or mentioned the fact that he did not line up under center most of the time, he took a shotgun snap in the spread option which he also ran out of.

The bigger thing is that Tannehill has also not played a down in the NFL while Garrard and Moore are NFL veterans.
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The playbook will not be spread, but the concepts and route combos will remain the same.

Are you trying to discount the fact that Miami's starting C says Tannehill understands what the offense is trying to accomplish better than anyone?
 
Geforce said:
Why do people keep forgetting to include the year Cam Newton played at Blinn Junior College where he threw 336 passes and led them to a national championship in 2009?

Tannehill's completion percentage suffers because his receivers were credited with dropping between 65 and 79 (depending on who is doing the counting) passes in 2011.

I'm not sure where you are getting that Tannehill competed for the QB position all four years at Texas A&M because that is not true.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...t-quarterback-wide-receiver-experience-041712
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So your point with the "foxsports" story is that Tannehill wasn't good enough to even compete? And where does it say he didn't compete? It just says he was told that Stephen McGee would start. This article did get wrong that Tannehill didn't take a snap at QB until the 6th game his junior season. He took snaps against Oklahoma his sophmore season and the first game of the season his junior season.

Even worse, it points out that Tannehill practiced all week at QB, attending every QB meeting, but went out and played WR on Saturdays. How is that not competing at QB? You don't think if coach Sherman saw in practice that Tannehill was the better QB then he wouldn't have started him?

So after practicing and attending meetings for 4 years (including red-shirt season) and playing the final 6.5 games as a junior Tannehill was still only able to be "average" his senior season...why the **** did Ireland spend the #8 pick on him again?

I really don't get your point with the article other than confirming that Tannehill had 5 years of practice at "QB" in college, meetings, knows the system inside-and-out, started nearly 2 seasons worth of games, threw 764 passes in games....why isn't he further along?

According to this Tannehill competed his red-shirt freshman year, sophmore year, played half the year as a junior, and started as a senior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Tannehill (not sure how that is not competing at QB all 4 years).
 
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