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Misconceptions by fans when it comes to qb's

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1. If your qb doesn't meet their expectation in their first season then he never will.
2. If your qb does great in his first season then he will do great in the rest of his seasons.
3. If your rookie qb wasn't good for one team, he won't be good for any other team.

I am not going to name qb's that prove those statements wrong, but do realize that our team doesn't have a very good track history of developing quarterbacks in the last two decades.
If a team isn't willing to develop a qb properly then they are going to always have that issue. That has been the story of the Dolphins post marino days. We don't really have a good track
record drafting some players at some positions, but we never did anything to develop any of them not named Tannehill. And one may argue that Tanehill played qb in systems that didn't
allow him to do the best of his abilities, but there were times that he struggled with some areas of his game because of the coaching staff he has been under.
 
  • Arm strenght is useless if you're not able to vary trajectories on different throws.
  • Speed is bad if you think you can take off after 1 read in the NFL.
  • Height isnt all that helpful if you dont know WTF you're looking at to begin with.
  • Inacurate QBs love 50/50 WRs, All WRs love accurate QBs.
  • It doesnt matter how fast you can run, how tall you are or how much heat you can put on your throws if:
  1. You dont have eye discipline
  2. Cant play under pressure
  3. Cant go through your reads
  4. Have no understanding of situational football
  5. Cant read a defense
  6. Cant take care of the ball
  7. ...
  8. ...
  9. ...

We could go all day here...
 
When I first started watching football in the early 1970's, quarterbacks were given time to develop. Sometimes four or five years.

Terry Bradshaw was a good example. He struggled for several years before becoming a good quarterback. I believe his quarterback rating in 1974 was 48, or something along those lines. Off subject, but that's a big reason I thought Miami could have beaten Pittsburgh had the Dolphins won the Sea of Hands Game. Griese was far superior to Bradshaw at that point in his career.

Anyway with the rule changes heavily skewed towards offense, quarterbacks are expected to produce a lot more quickly. Look how early teams give up on quarterbacks now.

Bottom line, it's still a team game and the quarterback is part of it. It's still about putting talent around the quarterback position.
 
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Misconceptions by Tua fans.
He will be great. Crystal ball tells them. Dolphins should never explore the opportunity to upgrade QB position.
Wrong.

I'm a Tua fan, and I believe he'll be great...BUT...if he stinks up the joint this year (i.e. doesn't improve markedly) and next, we damn sure better be bringing in a new blue-chip.
 
  • Arm strenght is useless if you're not able to vary trajectories on different throws.
  • Speed is bad if you think you can take off after 1 read in the NFL.
  • Height isnt all that helpful if you dont know WTF you're looking at to begin with.
  • Inacurate QBs love 50/50 WRs, All WRs love accurate QBs.
  • It doesnt matter how fast you can run, how tall you are or how much heat you can put on your throws if:
  1. You dont have eye discipline
  2. Cant play under pressure
  3. Cant go through your reads
  4. Have no understanding of situational football
  5. Cant read a defense
  6. Cant take care of the ball
  7. ...
  8. ...
  9. ...

We could go all day here...
Cap is that you? Everything you wrote is 100% the truth.

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Misconceptions by Tua fans.
He will be great. Crystal ball tells them. Dolphins should never explore the opportunity to upgrade QB position.
Unless your rookie QB has a historically bad rookie season most teams don't give up on a top 5 pick after just one season.
 
There is a new emphasis on immediate gratification among fans today, plus there is this ugly pride thing where people just want to be right. They make a snap judgement, and then make any argument to defend their initial POV... we see this everywhere in society these days.

The ability to say... "I was wrong." is gone... just gone from our society.
 
Wrong.

I'm a Tua fan, and I believe he'll be great...BUT...if he stinks up the joint this year (i.e. doesn't improve markedly) and next, we damn sure better be bringing in a new blue-chip.
You are the exception.
Tua fans will point to the three years window for young QB to show up. And find excuses like we don't have a thousand yard rusher.
 
Unless your rookie QB has a historically bad rookie season most teams don't give up on a top 5 pick after just one season.
Did I say I gave up on him?
I was referring to fans ( before the massage issue ), absolutely refused to explore the Watson opportunity.
 
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