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FREE AGENCY

1. Sign Flozell Adams (Dallas) and move Carey back to the right side.

2. Sign Isaac Sopoaga (SF 49ers) to play NT. My thought process here is that we're gonna run a 3-4 defense.

3. Sign Calvin Pace (Arizona) so we can trade Jason Taylor.


MOCK DRAFT

First, we trade the #1 overall pick to Atlanta so they can draft Matt Ryan. We get their 1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks.

Then we trade the #3 overall pick, Jason Taylor, and Ricky Williams to Cincy for their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks (plus a conditional pick in next year's draft). Cincy will pick Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey.

With the #9 overall pick we would have our choice of the best CB in the draft.

Then we trade our 3rd round pick to New Orleans for their 3rd and 4th round pick.

Round 1 - Mike Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin, or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. Any one of them would be the best corner we've had since Sam Madison.

Round 2 - BPA (impossible to predict who will fall but it's a numbers game and somebody with a 1st round grade will be sitting there for our taking)

Round 2 (from ATL) - Anthony Collins OT Kansas. A great LT prospect who can step in for Flozell in a couple of years. Boomer says he's every bit as good as Chris Williams. Maybe Collins even plays LG until Flozell retires.

Round 2 (from Cincy) - Philip Wheeler ILB Georgia Tech. Possibly the best ILB coming out this year. Some might argue that Dan Connor, Curtis Lofton, or Jerod Mayo are better. I would disagree. But the one thing you can't argue is that Wheeler is bigger and faster than all of them.

Round 2 - Roy Schuening OG Oregon St. Branden Albert and Chilo Rachal are getting all the press, but Schuening is no slouch. Before those guys declared he was the best OG coming out.

Round 3 (from Cincy) - Jamar Adams SS Michigan. The best SS coming out this year.

Round 3 (from New Orleans) - Erik Ainge QB Tennessee. An insurance policy for John Beck. An excellent prospect (great size, great bowl game, great Senior Bowl) who could develop into a very good QB and eventually take over for Beck if he isn't needed sooner.

Round 4 - Brad Cottam TE Tennessee. A huge talented TE, and we know Parcells and Ireland like huge. If Cottam is off the board or too injury prone, then Kellen Davis from Michigan St would be my second choice.

Round 4 (from New Orleans) - Spencer Larsen ILB Arizona. Doesn't have the measureables but this guy is a football player.

Round 5 - Jacob Hester FB LSU. We don't need a FB, but Hester is too good to pass up. BPA right? He can play FB or RB. And he's a special teams standout. An added bonus would be that New England wouldn't get him if we drafted him. He's the perfect replacement for Kevin Faulk. I'm no expert but I think Hestor would also be a good candidate for the H-back position.

Round 6 - Jason Rivers WR Hawaii. Big, tough WR who was a big part of Hawaii's explosive offense.

Round 7 - BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB Mississippi. Tough, physical runner who is also a good blocker. Looked great in the East-West Shrine game.

I've seen all these guys play in at least one game. Most of them I've seen play several times. And I was always impressed with what I saw.

So the additions to our roster would look like this:

Offense
QB - Erik Ainge (3rd round)
WR - Jason Rivers (6th round)
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis (7th round)
FB - Jacob Hester (5th round)
TE - Brad Cottam (4th round)
LT - Flozell Adams (from Dallas) and Anthony Collins (2nd round)
LG -
C -
RG - Roy Schuening (2nd round)
RT -

Defense
DE -
NT - Isaac Sopoaga (from San Fran)
DE -
OLB - Calvin Pace (from Arizona)
ILB - Philip Wheeler (2nd round)
ILB - Spencer Larsen (4th round)
OLB -
CB - Mike Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin, or DRC (1st round)
SS - Jamar Adams (3rd round)
FS -

And don't forget about the BPA available at the top of the 2nd round. It could be Jeff Otah, Branden Albert, or Chilo Rachal which would fortify our o-line.

Or it could be DRC which would give us both Mike Jenkins (or Leodis McKelvin) AND Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. How's that for a tandem?

Or it could be Kentwan Balmer, Reggie Smith, or Chad Henne. The possiblities are endless.
 
I dont think we would take DRC with the 9th pick in the Draft he will most likly be there at 32 but Leodis McKelvin would be a great pick up and i also think we will go after Alan Fanca in FA JMO
 
I dont think we would take DRC with the 9th pick in the Draft he will most likly be there at 32 but Leodis McKelvin would be a great pick up and i also think we will go after Alan Fanca in FA JMO

I totally agree that Leodis McKelvin and Mike Jenkins are more likely to be drafted before DRC at this point. But things can change come April. DRC really blew me away at the Senior Bowl, and I would give him serious consideration as the #1 CB. Plus he's been working out with Deion Sanders.

I would love it if he was still on the board at 32.

I thought a lot about Faneca vs Flozell. But when you look at how Parcells and Ireland brought in so many of their guys already, it would be out of character for them NOT to sign Adams. Plus Sparano was his position coach at Dallas, so there's a level of comfort there. It almost seems inevitable.

The other benefit to signing Flozell Adams is that you could move Carey back to right side. So it's almost like signing two offensive lineman for the price of one.

Now will we sign Faneca AND Adams? I suppose it's possible. But both of them are around 32 years old. I just don't see us signing two old-timers especially when we're trying to rebuild. But you never know...
 
I dont think we would take DRC with the 9th pick in the Draft he will most likly be there at 32 but Leodis McKelvin would be a great pick up and i also think we will go after Alan Fanca in FA JMO

Dude WTF! :lol: You have to change that pic. It looks like he's ready to let loose a Cleveland Brown. It just dont look right :lol:
 
FREE AGENCY

1. Sign Flozell Adams (Dallas) and move Carey back to the right side.

2. Sign Isaac Sopoaga (SF 49ers) to play NT. My thought process here is that we're gonna run a 3-4 defense.

3. Sign Calvin Pace (Arizona) so we can trade Jason Taylor.


MOCK DRAFT

First, we trade the #1 overall pick to Atlanta so they can draft Matt Ryan. We get their 1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks.

Then we trade the #3 overall pick, Jason Taylor, and Ricky Williams to Cincy for their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks (plus a conditional pick in next year's draft). Cincy will pick Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey.

With the #9 overall pick we would have our choice of the best CB in the draft.

Then we trade our 3rd round pick to New Orleans for their 3rd and 4th round pick.

Round 1 - Mike Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin, or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. Any one of them would be the best corner we've had since Sam Madison.

Round 2 - BPA (impossible to predict who will fall but it's a numbers game and somebody with a 1st round grade will be sitting there for our taking)

Round 2 (from ATL) - Anthony Collins OT Kansas. A great LT prospect who can step in for Flozell in a couple of years. Boomer says he's every bit as good as Chris Williams. Maybe Collins even plays LG until Flozell retires.

Round 2 (from Cincy) - Philip Wheeler ILB Georgia Tech. Possibly the best ILB coming out this year. Some might argue that Dan Connor, Curtis Lofton, or Jerod Mayo are better. I would disagree. But the one thing you can't argue is that Wheeler is bigger and faster than all of them.

Round 2 - Roy Schuening OG Oregon St. Branden Albert and Chilo Rachal are getting all the press, but Schuening is no slouch. Before those guys declared he was the best OG coming out.

Round 3 (from Cincy) - Jamar Adams SS Michigan. The best SS coming out this year.

Round 3 (from New Orleans) - Erik Ainge QB Tennessee. An insurance policy for John Beck. An excellent prospect (great size, great bowl game, great Senior Bowl) who could develop into a very good QB and eventually take over for Beck if he isn't needed sooner.

Round 4 - Brad Cottam TE Tennessee. A huge talented TE, and we know Parcells and Ireland like huge. If Cottam is off the board or too injury prone, then Kellen Davis from Michigan St would be my second choice.

Round 4 (from New Orleans) - Spencer Larsen ILB Arizona. Doesn't have the measureables but this guy is a football player.

Round 5 - Jacob Hester FB LSU. We don't need a FB, but Hester is too good to pass up. BPA right? He can play FB or RB. And he's a special teams standout. An added bonus would be that New England wouldn't get him if we drafted him. He's the perfect replacement for Kevin Faulk. I'm no expert but I think Hestor would also be a good candidate for the H-back position.

Round 6 - Jason Rivers WR Hawaii. Big, tough WR who was a big part of Hawaii's explosive offense.

Round 7 - BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB Mississippi. Tough, physical runner who is also a good blocker. Looked great in the East-West Shrine game.

I've seen all these guys play in at least one game. Most of them I've seen play several times. And I was always impressed with what I saw.

So the additions to our roster would look like this:

Offense
QB - Erik Ainge (3rd round)
WR - Jason Rivers (6th round)
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis (7th round)
FB - Jacob Hester (5th round)
TE - Brad Cottam (4th round)
LT - Flozell Adams (from Dallas) and Anthony Collins (2nd round)
LG -
C -
RG - Roy Schuening (2nd round)
RT -

Defense
DE -
NT - Isaac Sopoaga (from San Fran)
DE -
OLB - Calvin Pace (from Arizona)
ILB - Philip Wheeler (2nd round)
ILB - Spencer Larsen (4th round)
OLB -
CB - Mike Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin, or DRC (1st round)
SS - Jamar Adams (3rd round)
FS -

And don't forget about the BPA available at the top of the 2nd round. It could be Jeff Otah, Branden Albert, or Chilo Rachal which would fortify our o-line.

Or it could be DRC which would give us both Mike Jenkins (or Leodis McKelvin) AND Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. How's that for a tandem?

Or it could be Kentwan Balmer, Reggie Smith, or Chad Henne. The possiblities are endless.

I really like how you attacked this draft. I really dont think any trade downs are possible until the 2nd round but I like the effort. Well thought out. I'll be surprised if Ainge is drafted that high though. I think he lasts until the 5th round. I think you addressed the secondary very thoroughly but I doubt Parcells is going to address it as thoroughly as you. He really doesnt care about the secondary as much as he does the front seven. I think the secondary gets attacked in 2009 with free agents filling in in 2008
 
Also, I would sign free agents Andre Davis and Gibril Wilson if possible. But I was trying to be realistic, and it's rare that you sign 5 starters thru free agency. But you never know...
 
I totally agree that Leodis McKelvin and Mike Jenkins are more likely to be drafted before DRC at this point. But things can change come April. DRC really blew me away at the Senior Bowl, and I would give him serious consideration as the #1 CB. Plus he's been working out with Deion Sanders.

I would love it if he was still on the board at 32.

I thought a lot about Faneca vs Flozell. But when you look at how Parcells and Ireland brought in so many of their guys already, it would be out of character for them NOT to sign Adams. Plus Sparano was his position coach at Dallas, so there's a level of comfort there. It almost seems inevitable.

The other benefit to signing Flozell Adams is that you could move Carey back to right side. So it's almost like signing two offensive lineman for the price of one.

Now will we sign Faneca AND Adams? I suppose it's possible. But both of them are around 32 years old. I just don't see us signing two old-timers especially when we're trying to rebuild. But you never know...
yea IMO McKelvin is the best right now followed by DRC,
If we could sign both Faneca and Adams that would be awsome it would be almost unreal they still have about 4 more good years in them and Possibly more but if we get them Ronnie Brown would be even better then he was this year
 
thats a pipe dream.

FLowers and McKlevin will go before DRC
 
The Combine has just begun and you guys claim to know which two CBs will be the first off the board?

Three months ago Brohm, Brennan, and Woodson were the top QBs. Now it's Ryan, Henne, and Flacco.

But you're totally convinced already that two months from now Flowers and McKelvin are the guys? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I can't say you're right either. Is there anything wrong with keeping an open mind?

Parcells said that he doesn't care what the experts say. He doesn't care what you read on the internet or in the paper. They are going to rate guys on their own and come to their own conclusions. Are you telling me that it's totally out of the realm of possibility that they consider DRC to be the best CB in the draft?

NFL Draft Scout has DRC as the 3rd best and Jenkins 1st.
Mike Mayock has DRC as the 5th best and Flowers 1st.
NFL Draft Countdown has DRC as the 4th best and McKelvin 1st.
Footballs Future has doesn't even list DRC in the their Top Ten and has Cason 1st.
Draft Daddy has DRC as the 2nd best and Jenkins 1st.

Don't you think the Combine will have an effect on those rankings? Anybody that thinks they know which CB is going 1st is kidding themselves.

That's why I list DRC as a possible Top Ten pick or as possibly falling to us at #32. At this point we really have no idea what will happen.
 
The Combine has just begun and you guys claim to know which two CBs will be the first off the board?

Three months ago Brohm, Brennan, and Woodson were the top QBs. Now it's Ryan, Henne, and Flacco.

But you're totally convinced already that two months from now Flowers and McKelvin are the guys? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I can't say you're right either. Is there anything wrong with keeping an open mind?

Parcells said that he doesn't care what the experts say. He doesn't care what you read on the internet or in the paper. They are going to rate guys on their own and come to their own conclusions. Are you telling me that it's totally out of the realm of possibility that they consider DRC to be the best CB in the draft?

NFL Draft Scout has DRC as the 3rd best and Jenkins 1st.
Mike Mayock has DRC as the 5th best and Flowers 1st.
NFL Draft Countdown has DRC as the 4th best and McKelvin 1st.
Footballs Future has doesn't even list DRC in the their Top Ten and has Cason 1st.
Draft Daddy has DRC as the 2nd best and Jenkins 1st.

Don't you think the Combine will have an effect on those rankings? Anybody that thinks they know which CB is going 1st is kidding themselves.

That's why I list DRC as a possible Top Ten pick or as possibly falling to us at #32. At this point we really have no idea what will happen.

For beginners speak for yourself, who evre said i believed or neone did that brohm brennan etc etc were the top 3? you shouldn't put words into peoples mouths. Brohm fell off evre since the just about the beg of this year.

Who said we dont have an open mind? You shouldnt be saying things that dont make sense.

those sites have their own opinoins as they ARENT" GM, they AREN'T Coaches nor MUCH OF ANYTHING. You are off base on almost this entire post. Many sites had ppl ranked elsewhere does that mean its accurate?

DRC wont be a top 10 pick. Mcklevin would go to a team like Pats or Jets or Talib would go toa team like the Pats.

BTW what part of bbank are you from? you go to sports bars to watch the game?
 
JMO that we won't take corner that high because we can wait until the second round for a quality corner, as it's one of the deepest positions of the draft. I believe that is why all these draft experts can't decide on the top 5, there are too many good ones... it's a good problem to have, for us. In any event, the trade down with Cincy is not fair value in return. We could just include our 1 for their first and second, that's pretty equal value, throwing in JT and RW is netting us a third rounder and a conditional pick in next year's draft, change the conditional to a first and now we're talking.
 
For beginners speak for yourself, who evre said i believed or neone did that brohm brennan etc etc were the top 3? you shouldn't put words into peoples mouths. Brohm fell off evre since the just about the beg of this year.

Sorry. I think you misunderstood me. I never meant to imply that YOU thought Brohm, Brennan, etc were the top QBs coming out.

Back in January I copied the list of NFL Draft Scout's Top 500 seniors coming out. Here's the top ten:

1 Glenn Dorsey
2 Chris Long
3 Andre' Woodson
4 Sedrick Ellis
5 Jake Long
6 Keith Rivers
7 Matt Ryan
8 Dan Connor
9 Early Doucet
10 DeJuan Tribble

That was a little over a month ago. Their top 3 QBs were Woodson, Ryan, and Brohm.

Leodis McKelvin was a 3rd round prospect. Flowers hadn't declared yet. But as soon as he did they listed him as a 3rd round prospect too.

Just yesterday Pete Prisco listed Brohm as his #1 QB. Mike Mayock has Ryan as the #1 overall prospect in the draft. My point is: Nobody knows anything for sure.

Who said we dont have an open mind? You shouldnt be saying things that dont make sense.

those sites have their own opinoins as they ARENT" GM, they AREN'T Coaches nor MUCH OF ANYTHING. You are off base on almost this entire post. Many sites had ppl ranked elsewhere does that mean its accurate?

DRC wont be a top 10 pick. Mcklevin would go to a team like Pats or Jets or Talib would go toa team like the Pats.

Here's what you wrote...

FLowers and McKlevin will go before DRC

If you had an open mind about it you would have said something like, "Obviously I can't know for sure, but it's entirely possible that Flowers and McKelvin go before DRC." OR "I would be surprised if DRC went first."

Draft sites, magazines, ESPN, and the NFL NETWORK are the only thing we have to go on. What did you base your opinion on? Do you know Baltimore's GM personally? Did he tell you he was taking Flowers? Did New Orleans' GM tell you he was taking McKelvin?

The way the Senior Bowl is set up, the rules really favor the QB. Even with that advantage DRC still got two INTs. And he made a handful of nice open-field tackles. The guy looked extremely impressive. Today, as we stand, PRIOR to the Combine, I have no idea which CB will be first off the board. But after that performance I would have no problem selecting DRC first. Do any GMs agree with me? Impossible to know.

But until we have a clear #1 at CB I'm including DRC in the discussion.

BTW what part of bbank are you from? you go to sports bars to watch the game?

I live near the equestrian center close to Walt Disney studios.

I have two little kids, so I don't get to go out to sports bars much anymore. But I used to go to Champs. You know it? There's a Hooters downtown near the mall now. But the older I get the cheesier Hooters gets.
 
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