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Most Important Quality Tannehill Needs To Show These Last Games...

I know you didn't mean this as a question, but I will answer it. The most important quality he needs to show is what he has never shown consistently in the NFL, "clutch". He wilts under pressure. He cannot win when they NEED a win. He cannot keep the other team's offense off the field when we need to hold the ball to win. Let's see if these four games are any different than most of his career.
 
What imo he needs to do is something on his own accord, just drop back early in the game, disregard the play, find a lane, and run your ass off for some yards, let the defense know if they turn their backs on you you will cut them up real nice..
 
RobertHorry said:
Is flawed thinking and imposing himself.

Tannehill has to start having more flawed thinking. He needs to keep doing what he did in the Bills game with Stills and the deep ball to Parker. Throw the contested balls and throw them deep. He's taking more shots the past 2 games than he has in a while. Before he would settle for the check down if the deep route wasn't perfectly open. He finally started trying to impose himself recently with downfield throws even if they aren't perfectly ideal or open. It benefits QBs like Brady, Rodgers, Ben, etc. Once he starts doing that, I think he will be on a much better path.

Tannehill will throw Interceptions most likely then. The thing with him is that he usually has low Int's every season but it comes with a small amount of forced/deep shots. If you look at the top QBs they force the ball downfield and impose themselves few times a game and sometimes throw picks. He needs to keep doing that. Not every play, but a small amount will really help him. It trumps going 3 and out with throws short of the sticks every time.

It will open the offense a lot more and the run game too. Impose himself and don't wait for the perfect situation.
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I completely agree with this. If Ryan Tannehill remains the same, then his NFL life will pass him by. Nobody will care about him when he's gone, and we'll use him as an example of what not to do and how not to think. That's why I used the same term -- flawed thinking -- in another thread today.

I fully expect it to play out that way. I have never been a fan of Tannehill based on his resume and the sucker qualities attached. Everything screamed middle of the pack. Failed possessions don't seem to bother him and losses don't seem to surprise him.

To extricate himself, Tannehill needs a George Foreman-type transformation. I don't think that is overstating matters. Completely remaking himself, although the variables and order are not the same. Tannehill needs to imagine he's early George Foreman, throwing shots from everywhere and fully expecting the outcome to be decided early in his favor, with awe and fear attached.

Impose is the correct term. I use that word not long ago. Throw the darn ball. Your accuracy is your strength. As I've mentioned, every time Tannehill drops back and throws quickly and decisively over the middle I expect good things to happen. When he hesitates on that throw and doesn't pull the trigger I expect bad things to happen. Both versions played out early against the Bills. The first drive was full of those quick darts. Then Buffalo adjusted. No kidding. They are going to adjust. Throw it anyway. The defenders don't catch your errant ones. Instead, by the third drive Tannehill was concerned that the windows were tighter so now he's thinking and panicking. The sacks show up near the goal line.

Absolutely we need multiple times the number of deep balls. I distinctly remember when I was on the Las Vegas radio Stardust Line one night in the early '90s -- probably 1991 -- and chief Nevada oddsmaker Michael "Roxy" Roxborough was annoyed that the Canes kept throwing deep late in the game against San Diego State despite a huge lead at home. They finally connected for a touchdown and the game ended up in the middle, which is the worst outcome for the sportsbooks.

Roxy was whining for seemingly several minutes: "Miami just keeps throwing deep until they get it right." I laughed and said it was smart strategy. "No kidding it is smart strategy," Roxy said in anger. "I have no idea why more teams don't do that. They certainly don't do it when we (the sportsbooks) need them to score."

The entire live audience broke out in laughter at that one. I love the notion that sportsbooks don't care who wins.

Bottom line, the steady building block approach has no chance. Too many posters here don't recognize that. We are not an offensive line away. We are not a field goal per game away. We are a full touchdown per game removed from being competitive with the upper echelon teams...basically 28 points instead of 21. And you aren't getting that extra touchdown per game via Ryan Tannehill running with the football. He has some skill there but not enough. If you get him thinking along those lines then he's not going to impose himself with those Foreman haymaker shots.

Tannehill is too limited to expect every aspect to fall into place. He's not Russell Wilson or Josh Allen with his feet. Throw the fear away and wing the darn ball down the field.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I completely agree with this. If Ryan Tannehill remains the same, then his NFL life will pass him by. Nobody will care about him when he's gone, and we'll use him as an example of what not to do and how not to think. That's why I used the same term -- flawed thinking -- in another thread today.

I fully expect it to play out that way. I have never been a fan of Tannehill based on his resume and the sucker qualities attached. Everything screamed middle of the pack. Failed possessions don't seem to bother him and losses don't seem to surprise him.

To extricate himself, Tannehill needs a George Foreman-type transformation. I don't think that is overstating matters. Completely remaking himself, although the variables and order are not the same. Tannehill needs to imagine he's early George Foreman, throwing shots from everywhere and fully expecting the outcome to be decided early in his favor, with awe and fear attached.

Impose is the correct term. I use that word not long ago. Throw the darn ball. Your accuracy is your strength. As I've mentioned, every time Tannehill drops back and throws quickly and decisively over the middle I expect good things to happen. When he hesitates on that throw and doesn't pull the trigger I expect bad things to happen. Both versions played out early against the Bills. The first drive was full of those quick darts. Then Buffalo adjusted. No kidding. They are going to adjust. Throw it anyway. The defenders don't catch your errant ones. Instead, by the third drive Tannehill was concerned that the windows were tighter so now he's thinking and panicking. The sacks show up near the goal line.

Absolutely we need multiple times the number of deep balls. I distinctly remember when I was on the Las Vegas radio Stardust Line one night in the early '90s -- probably 1991 -- and chief Nevada oddsmaker Michael "Roxy" Roxborough was annoyed that the Canes kept throwing deep late in the game against San Diego State despite a huge lead at home. They finally connected for a touchdown and the game ended up in the middle, which is the worst outcome for the sportsbooks.

Roxy was whining for seemingly several minutes: "Miami just keeps throwing deep until they get it right." I laughed and said it was smart strategy. "No kidding it is smart strategy," Roxy said in anger. "I have no idea why more teams don't do that. They certainly don't do it when we (the sportsbooks) need them to score."

The entire live audience broke out in laughter at that one. I love the notion that sportsbooks don't care who wins.

Bottom line, the steady building block approach has no chance. Too many posters here don't recognize that. We are not an offensive line away. We are not a field goal per game away. We are a full touchdown per game removed from being competitive with the upper echelon teams...basically 28 points instead of 21. And you aren't getting that extra touchdown per game via Ryan Tannehill running with the football. He has some skill there but not enough. If you get him thinking along those lines then he's not going to impose himself with those Foreman haymaker shots.

Tannehill is too limited to expect every aspect to fall into place. He's not Russell Wilson or Josh Allen with his feet. Throw the fear away and wing the darn ball down the field.
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Good post, I will say that he doesn’t have to be Wilson or Allen, just threaten the defense a couple times a game will do..he hasn’t done that his whole career but if he’s going to reinvent himself before Sunday then that’s what he could do in the short term to help us win this game.

And here we are again, another Ryan Tannehill lifeline, this is it, time to play the best stretch of games of your dolphin career, overnight, understand what we need you to do, and apply it to your game, cause what you’ve been doing thus far will not be good enough, so either elevate it and get it, or it’s time that relationship come to an end..

His fate is in his hands, beat the pats, win out, if he shows us that he will do whatever on his own to help the team win, instead of just executing what is called, and we will embrace him.
 
the best thing dolphins can do is just move on from thill17. let another team deal w him. we are just wasting time. he doesn't have it factory. he is playing better...
 
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djphinfan said:
What imo he needs to do is something on his own accord, just drop back early in the game, disregard the play, find a lane, and run your *** off for some yards, let the defense know if they turn their backs on you you will cut them up real nice..
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Agreed. He needs to improve in the non-statistical part of QB. Some UNdesigned runs. Moving receivers around to get mismatches. Audible out of bad plays. THAT stuff
 
Aqua ‘N Orange said:
http://amp.miamiherald.com/sports/s...ticle222332635.html?__twitter_impression=true


Not sure where to put this but make sure you read it.
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I think if we finish 8-8/7-9 like I think we will, we ask RT to take a pay cut and bring in Bridgewater to compete with him/push him. “Good enough to not get rid of” is not cutting it in the NFL at the QB a position in 2019. That’s Josh McCown stuff and it’s been 7 years not 1 or 2. We’ve been in the middle of the road for way too long for the whole team....especially at QB.
 
RobertHorry said:
Is flawed thinking and imposing himself.

Tannehill has to start having more flawed thinking. He needs to keep doing what he did in the Bills game with Stills and the deep ball to Parker. Throw the contested balls and throw them deep. He's taking more shots the past 2 games than he has in a while. Before he would settle for the check down if the deep route wasn't perfectly open. He finally started trying to impose himself recently with downfield throws even if they aren't perfectly ideal or open. It benefits QBs like Brady, Rodgers, Ben, etc. Once he starts doing that, I think he will be on a much better path.

Tannehill will throw Interceptions most likely then. The thing with him is that he usually has low Int's every season but it comes with a small amount of forced/deep shots. If you look at the top QBs they force the ball downfield and impose themselves few times a game and sometimes throw picks. He needs to keep doing that. Not every play, but a small amount will really help him. It trumps going 3 and out with throws short of the sticks every time.

It will open the offense a lot more and the run game too. Impose himself and don't wait for the perfect situation.
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I agree, if we're going to lose, I'd like to go down swinging. Want to see Tannehill be aggressive especially if we are behind in the game.
 
Jerrysanders said:
Good read, Either choice is not necessarily a bad one but the cap hit of 26.6 maybe the deciding factor even if none of the other options are better, all of them are still way cheaper which leaves us more money to improve the team.
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Biggest take away for me is he feels not inclined to take a pay cut. Which says to me he feels he has other options.

It’s gonna be hard to get a guy to take a cut if they finish with a top 15 qbr. I know it’s not the end all be all but it is a solid qb efficiency rating tool. Currently 13th

And 11 games is more than enough of a sample size to rate the qb play off of. Assuming he stays healthy these next 4.
 
RobertHorry said:
Is flawed thinking and imposing himself.

Tannehill has to start having more flawed thinking. He needs to keep doing what he did in the Bills game with Stills and the deep ball to Parker. Throw the contested balls and throw them deep. He's taking more shots the past 2 games than he has in a while. Before he would settle for the check down if the deep route wasn't perfectly open. He finally started trying to impose himself recently with downfield throws even if they aren't perfectly ideal or open. It benefits QBs like Brady, Rodgers, Ben, etc. Once he starts doing that, I think he will be on a much better path.

Tannehill will throw Interceptions most likely then. The thing with him is that he usually has low Int's every season but it comes with a small amount of forced/deep shots. If you look at the top QBs they force the ball downfield and impose themselves few times a game and sometimes throw picks. He needs to keep doing that. Not every play, but a small amount will really help him. It trumps going 3 and out with throws short of the sticks every time.

It will open the offense a lot more and the run game too. Impose himself and don't wait for the perfect situation.
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I completely agree Robert, we were at the game and I made that exact commnet right after the interception... opens up the field for sure... great observation!
 
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