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I never knew this but...

"Dan Marino owns the #NFL record for the most consecutive pass attempts without being sacked, at 759

The next closest is Mark Rypien, with 252 straight attempts"

This might be his most impressive stat of all. It might even be unbreakable. This was key to his success.

We must be one of the league's most sacked teams ever since he left. That may explajn our downfalls.
 
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Marino wasn't quick or fast but he did have pretty quick feet to move around the pocket and set quickly before he fired the ball out. He had an extremely quick release. I think only Peyton Manning comes close in terms of how quickly the ball comes out.
 
I should point out that we had no running game worth mentioning during the vast majority of the Marino years because Shula focused so heavily on maintaining exceptional pass protectors for him, rather than a more balanced approach to the offensive line. With hindsight, it's pretty obvious that was, ultimately, a mistake.

I don't mean to rain on Marino's parade, but I think even he would say now that he would have taken a few more sacks, if it meant closing out more games with a decent running game.
 
0 rings. Greatest QB to lace them up and it a shame he didn't get better opportunities to win a chip.
 
How about the countless days he played neighborhood football as a kid.
I seen a interview from his dad when he said Dan had one football to play with as a kid,
And that was it , probably why he got so good, how many street touchdowns and wins
Did he get.? It shows effort makes excellence.
 
ALUCK said:
0 rings. Greatest QB to lace them up and it a shame he didn't get better opportunities to win a chip.
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In the end, it really just doesn’t matter. That’s what I grew up to discover.

I mean, did John Elway suddenly become a better QB than he already was simply because the Broncos finally won the final game of the season with the past his prime QB still under center?

Are Trent Dilfer, Jim McMahon, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco, Jim Plunkett, etc. somehow better than every HOF level QB that never managed to be part of a SB winner?

The answer to both those questions is a resounding ‘No’.

While it would have been awesome for Dan, his teammates and coaches, the city of Miami, and all Dolphins fans to be able to call themselves champions — it in no way makes any of those players better or worse than they already were.

In Danny’s case, he was clearly a talented and good enough QB to be under center for a title winning team. He just wasn’t ever able to be on the right team at the right time. And he’s far from the only all time great to be in the same boat.

Whereas the names of all those lesser QB’s were on board a different boat. They happened to be on the right team at the right time. Nothing more, nothing Less. And none of them are better QB’s than they were beforehand because they have a ring.

That’s why I no longer let it bother me that my favorite player and greatest QB I’ve ever seen play the game doesn’t have a ring. Because having one wouldn’t make him better than he already was without it.
 
illscriptures said:
I never knew this but...

"Dan Marino owns the #NFL record for the most consecutive pass attempts without being sacked, at 759

The next closest is Mark Rypien, with 252 straight attempts"

This might be his most impressive stat of all. It might even be unbreakable. This was key to his success.

We must be one of the league's most sacked teams ever since he left. That may explajn our downfalls.
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I can’t cite the exact stat now, but something I used to bring up re: Marino’s greatness was 4th quarter comebacks.

It was sometime in the mid-90’s when the Dolphins were playing a Monday night game they displayed a stat that always resonated and stuck with me.

It displayed the top 5 QB with the most career 4th quarter comebacks when tied or trailing to begin the quarter. The top 3 were Elway, Montana and Marino. In that exact order.

However, they then changed to criteria to most career 4th quarter comebacks when tied or trailing with 2 minutes or less remaining in the game (inc. OT). The top 3 order flipped. It was Marino, Montana, Elway.

That struck me hard. Because it confirmed what I felt I already knew. That Danny Marino was the clutchest QB of them all.

It’s one thing to lead your team to a win with an entire 15 minutes remaining. But to accomplish it with 2 min or less typically means you only had one final opportunity. And still got it done.

That’s why I always say it’s hard to recall many games during Marino’s career where he had the ball in his hands with a chance to tie or win the game in the final minutes and he didn’t get it done. It just didn’t happen often. The FG might have been missed or the defense couldn’t hold on afterward, but Dan usually got the team in position.

IMO, his production in the final minutes of games is one of his most impressive stats of all.....
 
The only knock against this stat is he threw an awfully high number of interceptions which may be attributed to the fact he was trying to get the ball away too quickly at times, thus avoiding sacks.
 
The most interesting and impressive stat for me was the 4th quarter comebacks. Sure, our defense sucked so he had a lot of opportunities (and that's the real reason he didn't get a Super Bowl ring), but still it was almost a shock. When Marino played they didn't even bother to mention it, because it was like his 10th most impressive statistic. But every time John Elway played they raved about how he had the most 4th quarter comebacks, leading the league, one of the greatest ever, destined to hold the record. Well, almost the entire time Marino was within 4 games of him, and when he retired, Marino also held the record for most 4th quarter comebacks ever. Nobody even mentions it, because when you hold records for Most TD's, Most Yards, Most Completions, Most Points, etc., etc., etc. .... it takes a while to get to the more granular stats like 4th quarter comebacks. While that was the _ONLY_ stat that the great John Elway had ... and he was still second-fiddle to Marino at that as well.

Elway was a great QB. But let's make sure one thing is perfectly clear ... he was nowhere near as good as Dan Marino. If Marino had a defense, he'd be looking to put Super Bowl rings on a second hand, because he would have had more than 5 rings.

So next time you hear someone crow about how great John Elway was--and he was definitely great--just realize that those QB's (Elway, Kelly, Montana) were all jockeying for 2nd best QB. They had more Super Bowl limelight, so history flatters them compared to Dan Marino. But when it came to the best QB, and who could score the most points ... they all know that Dan was the Man.
 
Digital said:
The most interesting and impressive stat for me was the 4th quarter comebacks. Sure, our defense sucked so he had a lot of opportunities (and that's the real reason he didn't get a Super Bowl ring), but still it was almost a shock. When Marino played they didn't even bother to mention it, because it was like his 10th most impressive statistic. But every time John Elway played they raved about how he had the most 4th quarter comebacks, leading the league, one of the greatest ever, destined to hold the record. Well, almost the entire time Marino was within 4 games of him, and when he retired, Marino also held the record for most 4th quarter comebacks ever. Nobody even mentions it, because when you hold records for Most TD's, Most Yards, Most Completions, Most Points, etc., etc., etc. .... it takes a while to get to the more granular stats like 4th quarter comebacks. While that was the _ONLY_ stat that the great John Elway had ... and he was still second-fiddle to Marino at that as well.

Elway was a great QB. But let's make sure one thing is perfectly clear ... he was nowhere near as good as Dan Marino. If Marino had a defense, he'd be looking to put Super Bowl rings on a second hand, because he would have had more than 5 rings.

So next time you hear someone crow about how great John Elway was--and he was definitely great--just realize that those QB's (Elway, Kelly, Montana) were all jockeying for 2nd best QB. They had more Super Bowl limelight, so history flatters them compared to Dan Marino. But when it came to the best QB, and who could score the most points ... they all know that Dan was the Man.
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It‘s so refreshing to read someone else recognize and acknowledge the same beliefs you’ve held for decades.

I couldn’t agree more.
 
I hope the coaches are in Tua's ear early and often on getting rid of the ball and playing situational football. Marino wouldn't think twice about tossing the ball in the dirt if someone had a free rush on him. I cringe watching some of Tua's Alabama highlights where he delivers a beautiful ball while standing in and taking the hit......glancing down to the scoreboard and noticing they're up by 30.

Marino was able to play almost two decades because he avoiding the hits. His body was still a mess by the end, but I think that was more a buildup of lower body injuries, some which were freak non-contact types.
 
Teenwolf said:
The only knock against this stat is he threw an awfully high number of interceptions which may be attributed to the fact he was trying to get the ball away too quickly at times, thus avoiding sacks.
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This is very misleading and has to do w the era be played in. And for that era his TD to INT ratio was better than everyone except Montana. Dan threw 422 to 252. Elway was 300 to 226. Bradshaw and Unitas were about 1:1. Even Montana, who played in the west coast system (short passes) wasn’t even 2:1. Now guys are 5,6,7:1 like it’s nothing. Interceptions were a part of the game for all of the reasons mentioned about the passing rule changes in another thread. That and the inability to tee off on the QB.
 
royalshank said:
This is very misleading and has to do w the era be played in. And for that era his TD to INT ratio was better than everyone except Montana. Dan threw 422 to 252. Elway was 300 to 226. Bradshaw and Unitas were about 1:1. Even Montana, who played in the west coast system (short passes) wasn’t even 2:1. Now guys are 5,6,7:1 like it’s nothing. Interceptions were a part of the game for all of the reasons mentioned about the passing rule changes in another thread. That and the inability to tee off on the QB.
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When you put Dan’s stats in the context of the era in which he played, they’re all well above average. And given how inflated QB stats are these days, it’s laughable to think he wouldn’t put up even more impressive stats here in the 21st century.
 
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