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Across the NFL, there is vast agreement that the Miami Dolphins made a mega reach with their first-round pick of Tennessee right tackle JaWuan James at No. 19 overall. Everybody knows that Miami was desperate to upgrade a porous offensive line before they ruin quarterback Ryan Tannehill, but taking James in the top 20 was a stretch by any imagination.


As one source said, it's scary that James was taken only eight picks after Taylor Lewan and three picks after Zack Martin because the gap between those players and James in terms of draft grade is titanic. His team gave James a second-round grade in his report, but after putting their draft board together, they had him down in the third round.


Two teams that drafted offensive tackles before Miami told us they did not have a first-round grade on James. One of them had James in the third. Another team that selected a few picks after Miami did not have a first-round grade on James. They had him with a late third-round, early fourth-round grade.


A team picking in the top 10 that was rumored to be in the tackle market told us that they had a fifth-round grade on James. While that sounds extremely low, that team felt the only tackles worthy of a first-round pick were Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews, Taylor Lewan and Zack Martin.


All told, we've heard from five teams that did not have a first-round grade on James. One team that drafted a left tackle in the top 10 said they had a late first or early second-round projection on James. Thus, no team that we spoke with had a legitimate first-round grade on James.


New Dolphins general manager Dennis Hickey was part of some bad drafting during his tenure in Tampa Bay. After Hickey took over as the director of college scouting for the Buccaneers in 2006, three coaching staffs and two general managers ended up getting fired thanks to bad drafts that consistently featured the team reaching on players to fill a need. Head coaches Jon Gruden, Raheem Morris and Greg Schiano all had rosters that lacked talent because of draft-day mistakes. Sources told us that Hickey was going to be fired by Tampa Bay after the draft, but Miami hired him to be their general manager after a number of candidates turned down the job.


Given that history, it isn't surprising that the Dolphins took a mega reach with the first selection by the new regime.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php
 
lol typical walter. Hates everything dolphins do no matter what
 
Opinions are like assholes....it is what it is. We filled a need. No going back now with the pick
 
It was a reach.....he is a 2nd rounder at best. Hopefully he can get stronger!

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I don't mind the pick at all, just not at 19. I think Hickey panicked a bit, when he could have got at least James and a 3rd.
 
Lol but the cards and especially pats didn't reach for their players right? **** losers like walter. Living in moms basement waiting for an nfl team to call
 
I have a 3rd rd grade on bortles..
I have a feeling they were hoping one of the two lbs or Martin would be there..
 
People slob on Belicheat's knob for taking an injured reach but trashing the fins for taking a player of need whose actually good? Yeah typical media wanna be's
 
He was considered a second rnd pick because he's a RT, and ots incredibly rare a RT is graded in the 1st rnd by draft "experts".

But all the bigs were gone by our second pick. And throughout the NFL, the top RTs are almost all 1st or 2nd rnd picks.

And just in case everyone forgot tannehill was sacked 58 times! Yes we needed a RT, and we were desperate for one. For people saying we could wait to grab one.... Who? Who is the other RT we could of got if we didn't get James? I don't see one.

This isnt just a position filler, this is the guy protecting our hopefully, franchise qb. You don't get cheap when it comes to drafting the guy who protects your qb, that's why the top tackles go quick every draft.

1st goal, get a qb.
2nd, protect him.
 
Joba-nator said:
People slob on Belicheat's knob for taking an injured reach but trashing the fins for taking a player of need whose actually good? Yeah typical media wanna be's
Click to expand...

But what a steal he got in Mallet. Er, wait now it's Garappolo.... or did he want Bortles as the successor. Either way, what a genius lately, right?
 
The funniest part about this is everyone was forcing us to trade up for zack Martin, because thats more acceptable than drafting a bigger guy, who actually plays RT. We had 49 games of tape to watch James AT RT. How many games have we seen Martin play RT? 0

Because you know, Zack can play every position along the oline? Really?

He can play RT? I've never seen that tape.
 
Turn off your blinders for a second and read it. It's Campbell not Walter, and he's mostly just saying what he's heard from a few teams.
 
Walter's site blindly trashes everything Miami does. They've become worse than rotoworld to be honest. Another loser who master bates at the alter of Belicheat even if he's clearly reaching
 
Reach, not a reach, it doesn't matter now. With the moves made, we are setting up a firm o-line group that we won't need to draft a cornfed player in the first round for a few years, it wasn't like we were getting a Watkins/Ebron/etc type of player at 19 or trading down from that spot, so Hickey took what he felt fit the mold of the team and a need. How many O-Lineman were taken after James? I believe there was like 4-6 in the 2nd round and they weren't at all amazing, they had upside, but a list of downside, so out of that group from round 2 and there on, would you rather have James or one of those players that were taken after him on the o-line?

Now I don't follow college much so I don't know what type of players/stars will be in next year's draft, but let's say our moves thus far sure up the line and we don't have to follow trend of using a 1st on a lineman and there is a handful of superstars out there in the next draft, we could easily make a Falcons type of move like they did a few years ago for Jones or a player of that type. Mock drafters, writers, people on espn/nfl network will talk out their ass viewing the pick in the frames of "he had a 2nd round grade on him" and not realize that with the 2rd olineman taken on Friday, James pans out higher grade wise and was a move to ensure future moves in following drafts. But what do we know, I mean clearly no other team reached for a player in this years draft =/
 
I didn't like the pick, because I wanted to trade down.

that being said if anyone really knew who was going to succeed or fail, they would be rich and not running a website that looks like it belongs in the Tech museum

like someone said "you THINK you know, but you don't. And you never will". Was JJ the BPA? probably not. Then again how many guys picked ahead of him will flop? on May 8th, 2014 some % of guys picked were the BPA. On may 8th 2016 somebody will post one of those hind-sight re-drafts based on actual performance and yesterday's "BPA" will be today's bust. JJ may be a bust on that day, but conversely if he holds down the RT spot for 7 years and stays healthy he probably would be more valuable than a few guys picked ahead of him. I hated that we stayed @ 19 for a RT, but I know jack **** about scouting college players so I hope in 2 years I will be eating crow
 
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