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My analysis of frerrote... for you crazy folks...

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Disclaimer, im not saying anyone did better than anyone else... this is a comment on how some of you might be box score lurkers and think that tells you how the QB played...

THIS IS NOT ABOUT FEELEY

now i dont see how you guys are that impressed with frerrote, there were 2 throws that gave him half his yards, the 44 yard ball to chambers, which he was double covered and luckily the ball was horribly underthrown and chambers made a nice play, and where a bears safety whiffed on the sack... and the TD pass to gilmore that wasn't even intended for gilmore... now besides those 70 yards, he had about 3 WR screen passes, which the WRs make the play on those, and 4 short pass routes that turned into a few yards... i dont see where he made any great reads or throws that put him in the forefront of our 4 QBs??

the safety missing him had nothing to do with mobility or pocket awareness, for christ sakes he was staring at chambers so hard the whole time he didn't even see the guy coming right up the middle, haha... his screen passes were nice, but he did have 1 or 2 that were bad throws one that boston made a bobbling catch on and 1 where it was imcomplete... i think he had 1 good midrange throw for about 15 yards... but besides that i dont see where he dominated... he didn't move in the pocket, luckily he had more time against the bears second unit in his second drive... he had some sloppy throws not putting the ball in the best spot for reciever, i just need someome to tell me what he did that was so great, and dont show me a box score, im talking about in the game...
 
I don't think its so much about being impressed with Gus, it's more about not being impressed by Feeley. But it was only one game, 4 more to go for Feeley to show something.
 
More people would have been impressed with Feeley had that long strike to Thompson not bounced off his hands.
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
I don't think its so much about being impressed with Gus, it's more about not being impressed by Feeley. But it was only one game, 4 more to go for Feeley to show something.
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well im not even trying to talk about feeley, just how people are saying they were impressed with gus, i wasn't that much... i dont know...

feeley didn't get much of a chance to show anything really, only throws i saw from him seemed ok... the busted screen and the dropped thompson pass were the only things that mighta looked bad for him
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
I don't think its so much about being impressed with Gus, it's more about not being impressed by Feeley. But it was only one game, 4 more to go for Feeley to show something.
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but the question is how many games before he gets his head taken off b/c he has absolutely no pocket awareness
 
I just liked how he stood in the pocket and didn't seem scared. Feeley worries me because when the pressures on he loses his composure, leading to bad throws. Gus just seems calm behind the line, which is a huge trait in my opinion.
 
saves said:
I just liked how he stood in the pocket and didn't seem scared. Feeley worries me because when the pressures on he loses his composure, leading to bad throws. Gus just seems calm behind the line, which is a huge trait in my opinion.
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I agree
 
I have to agree that Gus didn't exactly shine although none of the QB's did. I think he is a little calmer in the pocket do to his experience and AJ needs more starting time and will get more comfortable as time goes on. Now was it just me or did I miss alll the long balls that we have been hearing about from camp, because I dont recall that many deep throws, or is it just because the o-line didn't give enough time??
 
hunter5nc1 said:
but the question is how many games before he gets his head taken off b/c he has absolutely no pocket awareness
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I agree, Sage, Gus and even Berlin looked more comfy in the pocket then Feeley, and they faced the same rush. I can't help thinking if Feeley was in the endzone, he goes down, but Gus stays cool and hits Chambers.

we will find out in the next few games if Feeley can get better.
 
arsenal said:
well im not even trying to talk about feeley, just how people are saying they were impressed with gus, i wasn't that much... i dont know...

feeley didn't get much of a chance to show anything really, only throws i saw from him seemed ok... the busted screen and the dropped thompson pass were the only things that mighta looked bad for him
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Watch some film on Minny that is how Moss got most of his yards.........If he throws that ahead of the reciever it may be a pick or incompletion.....but you intentionally underthrow so the reciever can make a play on the ball......remeber AJ's throw to Thompson that beat the pats????? Same thing!
 
arsenal said:
Disclaimer, im not saying anyone did better than anyone else... this is a comment on how some of you might be box score lurkers and think that tells you how the QB played...

THIS IS NOT ABOUT FEELEY

now i dont see how you guys are that impressed with frerrote, there were 2 throws that gave him half his yards, the 44 yard ball to chambers, which he was double covered and luckily the ball was horribly underthrown and chambers made a nice play, and where a bears safety whiffed on the sack... and the TD pass to gilmore that wasn't even intended for gilmore... now besides those 70 yards, he had about 3 WR screen passes, which the WRs make the play on those, and 4 short pass routes that turned into a few yards... i dont see where he made any great reads or throws that put him in the forefront of our 4 QBs??

the safety missing him had nothing to do with mobility or pocket awareness, for christ sakes he was staring at chambers so hard the whole time he didn't even see the guy coming right up the middle, haha... his screen passes were nice, but he did have 1 or 2 that were bad throws one that boston made a bobbling catch on and 1 where it was imcomplete... i think he had 1 good midrange throw for about 15 yards... but besides that i dont see where he dominated... he didn't move in the pocket, luckily he had more time against the bears second unit in his second drive... he had some sloppy throws not putting the ball in the best spot for reciever, i just need someome to tell me what he did that was so great, and dont show me a box score, im talking about in the game...
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For whatever reasons there was, Feeley was unimpressive. Don't get me wrong, he was ok; but he still has a ways to go if he wants to be the starter. Frerotte right now is the best choice. To be honest, you make good points for Frerotte without even trying. If you look at most QBs stats in a game, a big chunk of their stats come from 2 or 3 big passing plays. The fact that Frerotte came up with big plays is what we need. It doesn't matter how he got the yards, the fact is, he got them. Plus, I'm starting to believe that Feeley is fragile. We can't depend on a QB he keeps getting little nagging injuries every time he gets hit. This is his second "tushy" injury. WTF, did he reinjure the same tushy as before or what? :D

And you are wrong about not moving in the pocket. Frerotte, stepped up in the pocket when he had to. He even sidestepped when had too. Watching the QB's movement in the pocket was something I payed close attention to. Frerotte was poised under pressure while Feeley panicked under pressure. I had plenty of time to analyze, because I have the game on TiVo.

Frerotte wins round one. Now we'll see what Frerotte can do this Saturday when he is the starting QB. I'm not counting Feeley out of it yet, but Frerotte has more intangibles than Feeley and it shows.
 
How can ANY QB look good with an offensive line that cannot pick up a blitz and allows pressure straight up the middle? Houck BETTER do something with this line or I see us in the hunt to draft Leinart!
 
FinaticPatch said:
Watch some film on Minny that is how Moss got most of his yards.........If he throws that ahead of the reciever it may be a pick or incompletion.....but you intentionally underthrow so the reciever can make a play on the ball......remeber AJ's throw to Thompson that beat the pats????? Same thing!
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no you dont underthrow a ball like that, you throw it behind a reciever yes, but usually to the outside, you dont loft it in the middle of the field and have your WR come back... thats not intentional and obviously not a big deal being that frerrote just had a safety wiff by him at 100 mph, haha... i would expect that ****ty throw after that...

but i watched plays repeatedly (thank you DVR) all i saw was frerrote lock onto recievers and barely move in the pocket, one play he moved over slightly almost omre into the DEs, haha (that was the TD mispass to gilmore)...

but i think the problem is everyone looks at that ugly screen pass on feeley and act like hes rattled, but really a busted screen you cant do anything... besides that feeley did fine with the more constant rush that frerrote got, he stepped up ahead of i tihnk alex brown when he beat carey, just to have an untouched urlacher in his face...

i think you guys confuse the fact that feeley had much more pressure on him from the first team defense, when gus was in with the first team defense after his prayer of a pass to chambers he couldn't do anything either and took a sack and was on his *** a few times... thats why then the second drive on the second team defense he had a lot more quick screens and short passes since the protection wasn't there...

i hate how i ahve to sound like a feeley supporter when really i just want the best guy, but its like you guys wanna find bad things for feeley and give frerrote the benefit of the doubt with ****... just be unbiased and watch again, you'll see...
 
hunter5nc1 said:
but the question is how many games before he gets his head taken off b/c he has absolutely no pocket awareness
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What makes you say that, when Gus was locked onto Chambers & never seen Briggs and he was in the endzone.

Sometimes they simply get to the QB as with Urlachers sack.
 
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