My take on draft grades

[dlockz]

Since we all seem to abhor any source telling us that we did not have the draft of all drafts my opinion of what the fans want to hear is much like the wife that asks her husband how she looks. She really just wants to hear that she looks great, no honest answers.

A C is a decent draft grade for drafting a guy coming off of injury. A very good college receiver that had some problems at senior bowl and a super project in the 4th round. Now many will say we got the really fast Auburn receiver and Rodrigue Wright but every team passed on these guys multiple times for some reason or other. I liked both guys as 4th round picks this year so I was excited we got them but I'm not sure you can say we had a great draft by who we took in the seventh round. We did not catch anybody sleeping with any of the players we drafted. I think we needed a S and Allen was the highest rated guy on the board in a position of need but I know of very few players if any that were drafted this high after missing half the year. Hagins was a top level college receiver that seems to have a good speed/size combo and I do think he was a good third round value. Toledo was a bit of a head scratcher and it reminds me of the Wade Smith pick but with better size. I just think there were too many players that were sure things on the board to take a project like Toledo over them.

 

[miadfins]

all true but there no need to "catch someone sleeping," we just to pick the best players for our system. you also have to factor in manny and dante

 

[dlockz]

all true but there no need to "catch someone sleeping," we just to pick the best players for our system. you also have to factor in manny and dante

Well Manny doesn't really improve our ratings yet and am not convinced that he would have been drafted any higher this year. As for the catch someone sleeping phrase I am referring to a guy that fell a few slots because someone took a project much like we did in the 4th. Back to Manny I really liked getting his potential but if Rodrigue Wright who was a first team all american can go in the seventh injury or not than a guy who was much more inconsistant them him might not go any higher.

 

[Coral Reefer]

Since we all seem to abhor any source telling us that we did not have the draft of all drafts my opinion of what the fans want to hear is much like the wife that asks her husband how she looks. She really just wants to hear that she looks great, no honest answers.

A C is a decent draft grade for drafting a guy coming off of injury. A very good college receiver that had some problems at senior bowl and a super project in the 4th round. Now many will say we got the really fast Auburn receiver and Rodrigue Wright but every team passed on these guys multiple times for some reason or other. I liked both guys as 4th round picks this year so I was excited we got them but I'm not sure you can say we had a great draft by who we took in the seventh round. We did not catch anybody sleeping with any of the players we drafted. I think we needed a S and Allen was the highest rated guy on the board in a position of need but I know of very few players if any that were drafted this high after missing half the year. Hagins was a top level college receiver that seems to have a good speed/size combo and I do think he was a good third round value. Toledo was a bit of a head scratcher and it reminds me of the Wade Smith pick but with better size. I just think there were too many players that were sure things on the board to take a project like Toledo over them.

My take on draft grades are that they really don't mean anything anyway.

Drafts are impossible to grade until at the very least after 1 year and the reality is that it takes 2-3 years to really grade a draft.

It's all an educated guess. It's fun to do and fun to read but bottom line they mean nothing right now.

 

[dlockz]

My take on draft grades are that they really don't mean anything anyway.

Drafts are impossible to grade until at the very least after 1 year and the reality is that it takes 2-3 years to really grade a draft.

It's all an educated guess. It's fun to do and fun to read but bottom line they mean nothing right now.

I agree I just think we tend to agree with the ones that are more flattering.

 

[Mike13]

I agree I just think we tend to agree with the ones that are more flattering.

Because thats what people want to hear. I think a C grade is about right.

 

[O'townPhinFan]

Because thats what people want to hear. I think a C grade is about right.

If it is any consilation...don't know how much bearing Yahoo sports has but this is what they said....






Miami Dolphins


High marks – Miami did really well in free agency, so it's hard to argue with a draft that was mostly aimed at adding good young depth. That said, Tennessee's Jason Allen is a risky pick because of long-term concerns about his hip. Still, he gives the Dolphins a Cover 2 corner with the flexibility of being a great safety. That's good value for the 16th overall pick. Trading the second-round choice for Daunte Culpepper is the huge positive from this draft class. Tackle Joe Toledo adds some depth and competition on the line, and defensive tackle Rodrique Wright is a great value selection in the seventh round.
Low marks – Derek Hagan was a so-so choice in the third round considering the Dolphins could have had massive guard Max Jean-Gilles. Hagan's hands are below average and he's going to frustrate Nick Saban with his dropped passes. Solidifying the offensive line should have been a higher priority than adding a wide receiver with a major flaw.

Final grade: B :dolphins: :dolphins: :D :D

 

[dlockz]

If it is any consilation...don't know how much bearing Yahoo sports has but this is what they said....






Miami Dolphins


High marks – Miami did really well in free agency, so it's hard to argue with a draft that was mostly aimed at adding good young depth. That said, Tennessee's Jason Allen is a risky pick because of long-term concerns about his hip. Still, he gives the Dolphins a Cover 2 corner with the flexibility of being a great safety. That's good value for the 16th overall pick. Trading the second-round choice for Daunte Culpepper is the huge positive from this draft class. Tackle Joe Toledo adds some depth and competition on the line, and defensive tackle Rodrique Wright is a great value selection in the seventh round.
Low marks – Derek Hagan was a so-so choice in the third round considering the Dolphins could have had massive guard Max Jean-Gilles. Hagan's hands are below average and he's going to frustrate Nick Saban with his dropped passes. Solidifying the offensive line should have been a higher priority than adding a wide receiver with a major flaw.

Final grade: B :dolphins: :dolphins: :D :D

Hagan I think was very underrated by this group and its not like we were the only team that passed on Giles but they have a decent point.

 

[Mr.Majestik]

Re:

I think we needed a S and Allen was the highest rated guy on the board in a position of need but I know of very few players if any that were drafted this high after missing half the year. Hagins was a top level college receiver that seems to have a good speed/size combo and I do think he was a good third round value. Toledo was a bit of a head scratcher and it reminds me of the Wade Smith pick but with better size. I just think there were too many players that were sure things on the board to take a project like Toledo over them.

Antonio Cromartie was selected three picks after Allen, and he hasn't played a down of football since 2004 after suffering a bad knee injury. And to add insult to Cromartie's injury, he's projected as a cornerback, but he's only played one game at the position in his entire college career. He's more athlete then football player, yet the Chargers, and their much-respected GM A.J. Smith, maybe one of the five best in the league, drafted the guy anyway. Willis McGahee was selected seven spots after Allen just four months after suffering what could only be termed a catastrophic, potentially career-ending knee injury. Allen's injury was relatively minor, especially compared to what Cromartie and McGahee went through.

In the fourth-round, there is no such thing as a sure thing. In fact, there is no sure thing period. Statistically speaking, only about 25% of the players drafted in the first-round ever visit Honolulu on the NFL's dime. The ugly truth is that every team says they are ecstatic about their draft the day after, hope springs eternal, but for most of those teams, the reality will begin to makes its presense felt sooner, rather then later.

 

[dlockz]

Antonio Cromartie was selected three picks after Allen, and he hasn't played a down of football since 2004 after suffering a bad knee injury. And to add insult to Cromartie's injury, he's projected as a cornerback, but he's only played one game at the position in his entire college career. He's more athlete then football player, yet the Chargers, and their much-respected GM A.J. Smith, maybe one of the five best in the league, drafted the guy anyway. Willis McGahee was selected seven spots after Allen just four months after suffering what could only be termed a catastrophic, potentially career-ending knee injury. Allen's injury was relatively minor, especially compared to what Cromartie and McGahee went through.

In the fourth-round, there is no such thing as a sure thing. In fact, there is no sure thing period. Statistically speaking, only about 25% of the players drafted in the first-round ever visit Honolulu on the NFL's dime. The ugly truth is that every team says they are ecstatic about their draft the day after, hope springs eternal, but for most of those teams, the reality will begin to makes its presense felt sooner, rather then later.

Well as I said no player had been drafted that high, all those were drafted behind him but I agree with your take on Cromartie but he does have hands like a WR. And as for the fourth round or any round no player is a sure thing but Johnathon Scott has played tackle and can play guard at least at a high level in college, Toledo has played no position at high level as of yet. So far he has been basically an athlete like you call Cromartie.

 

[brianca]

I don't think the ratings are based on how well you did with what you had, but rather what you got out of the draft. Teams that had 5 picks in the first three rounds are probably going to do better than we are. It's just a fact. If you look at it as how well we did with what we had, it looks pretty good. But even then, it probably only goes up to a B.

 

[EBMisfit]

I don't think the ratings are based on how well you did with what you had, but rather what you got out of the draft. Teams that had 5 picks in the first three rounds are probably going to do better than we are. It's just a fact. If you look at it as how well we did with what we had, it looks pretty good. But even then, it probably only goes up to a B.

The problem is that there is no consistent way that drafts are graded (e.g., potential vs. production, filling needs vs. BPA, whether other players who were acquired with draft picks [such as Manny Wright and Culpepper] should be factored into the final grade). In fact, I haven't seen many individual draft rankings that consistently applied these criteria.

 

[Surferosa]

Just tell me Im beautiful dammit! :)

 

[Surferosa]

I agree with you 100% Dlockz. Obviously Jason Allen can turn out to be an amazing pick, but in the Vaccum that is the Draft he represents an injury risk. Therefore we will not be univerally congratulated for picking him, regardless of his skill and upside.

Thats just how these things work.

 

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I don't think the ratings are based on how well you did with what you had, but rather what you got out of the draft. Teams that had 5 picks in the first three rounds are probably going to do better than we are. It's just a fact. If you look at it as how well we did with what we had, it looks pretty good. But even then, it probably only goes up to a B.

Exactly an excellent point i think we had a very good draft considering what we had but in the grand scheme of things a C is about fair (if Culpepper etc arent included)