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The Goat said:
You’re really creating a false narrative here.

He’s not blaming the victim. He’s saying they need to make better choices.

“Hey! I hear that 50% of the people who buy this car eventually have a serious injury. But…hey, it’s pretty and fast! I think I’ll buy it!”

They get hurt. Is it still the car manufacturer’s fault? Of course.

But the dumbass should’ve bought a different car, too.
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I think it's a false narrative to say if you don't leave after the 1st time they hit your staying because of the money, stop selling yourself. Now this may be the case in her situation, we don't know. But to say leave after the 1st time a possessive, narcissistic, control freak touches you aggressively, like it is the norm in these types of cases, is ridiculous. I think Tyreek Hill should be castrated as well as all men that use power in more ways then just being physical to trap women that feel they have no way out. It's cowardly, I feel that yes, some women should use better judgment, but in no situation should it deflect the act that Tyreek did. It is the same as saying that a women that dressed provocatively and stayed at a bar late was asking to be raped.
 
danstilldaman said:
Doubling down on victim blaming I see, was giving you the benefit but I was too generous.
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Think what you want. I just hope your daughters are smart enough not to drink Bill Cosby mixed drinks even though your parenting style would encourage her to trust him.

Some level of common sense is encouraged in this world.

How many times did she claim he beat her again?

Oh, and I just checked …. Google does bring up his abusive past. Imagine that. Do you think she ever googled him? If so, what do you imagine she looked up related to him? Go ahead and… prove any one my original points.

I don’t know if you have a son, but if Jeffrey Dahmer was alive and free, would you encourage a dinner date for your son with him? I know the answer. Common sense bro. But you judge me for encouraging common sense first.
The Goat said:
You’re really creating a false narrative here.

He’s not blaming the victim. He’s saying they need to make better choices.

“Hey! I hear that 50% of the people who buy this car eventually have a serious injury. But…hey, it’s pretty and fast! I think I’ll buy it!”

They get hurt. Is it still the car manufacturer’s fault? Of course.

But the dumbass should’ve bought a different car, too.
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thank you for being part of the rarest breed of people …. Those with common sense.
 
Scrap said:
Think what you want. I just hope your daughters are smart enough not to drink Bill Cosby mixed drinks even though your parenting style would encourage her to trust him.

Some level of common sense is encouraged in this world.

How many times did she claim he beat her again?

Oh, and I just checked …. Google does bring up his abusive past. Imagine that. Do you think she ever googled him? If so, what do you imagine she looked up related to him? Go ahead and… prove any one my original points.

I don’t know if you have a son, but if Jeffrey Dahmer was alive and free, would you encourage a dinner date for your son with him? I know the answer. Common sense bro. But you judge me for encouraging common sense first.

thank you for being part of the rarest breed of people …. Those with common sense.
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I get where you coming from, common since should truly encouraged, because common sense ain't that common these days, we have spent enough time talking about that POS., and it makes me think of things, that puts me in a dark place with the things I would do to him if his actions were directly connected to me.
 
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danstilldaman said:
I think it's a false narrative to say if you don't leave after the 1st time they hit your staying because of the money, stop selling yourself. Now this may be the case in her situation, we don't know. But to say leave after the 1st time a possessive, narcissistic, control freak touches you aggressively, like it is the norm in these types of cases, is ridiculous. I think Tyreek Hill should be castrated as well as all men that use power in more ways then just being physical to trap women that feel they have no way out. It's cowardly, I feel that yes, some women should use better judgment, but in no situation should it deflect the act that Tyreek did. It is the same as saying that a women that dressed provocatively and stayed at a bar late was asking to be raped.
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It’s absolutely not ridiculous to say “leave after the first time someone touches you aggressively.” And that is absolutely not the same thing as saying anyone ever deserves to be raped under any circumstances.

People deserve better than that. I, as a father, like to think I taught my kids that they deserve better than that.

I think that’s mostly what Scrap was saying.

It’s not entirely dissimilar to the rule I’ve had to learn myself. “Nothing good ever happens when you’re out after midnight.”

99% of the time…okay…85% of the time, it wasn’t even remotely my fault. But after two or seven times when bad things happened, I eventually had to say to myself, “stop putting yourself in bad situations,”
 
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BSQ said:
Tyreek has an illness. A man can never put his hands on a women, NEVER! He has cheated and got tons of girls pregnant in this town. Somebody needs to stop him before he kills somebody. He won't stop doing it, that's plain enough. It's not a team problem and we should cut all associations with this absolutely terrible human being. Enough is enough of this man child with a brutal temper. He is out of control.
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Never? What if he comes home and finds she's already drowned 2 of their kids and is about to dunk the 3rd?
 
The Goat said:
It’s absolutely not ridiculous to say “leave after the first time someone touches you aggressively.” And that is absolutely not the same thing as saying anyone ever deserves to be raped under any circumstances.

People deserve better than that. I, as a father, like to think I taught my kids that they deserve better than that.

I think that’s mostly what Scrap was saying.

It’s not entirely dissimilar to the rule I’ve had to learn myself. “Nothing good ever happens when you’re out after midnight.”

99% of the time…okay…85% of the time, it wasn’t even remotely my fault. But after two or seven times when bad things happened, I eventually had to say to myself, “stop putting yourself in bad situations,”
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I agree with this, but the majority of people being abused don't leave the 1st time the statistics show it takes survivors on average 7 attempts. But we both don't need to waste anymore time on the POS Tyreek Hill.
 
There was a minute where I held out hope that maybe Hill had turned a corner in his life and matured. But it's been very clear for quite a while now that he's the same POS he's always been. He'll be cut soon. Not our problem anymore. Good riddance.
 
C l u t c H 385 said:
Never? What if he comes home and finds she's already drowned 2 of their kids and is about to dunk the 3rd?
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Right! I understand the concept that a man should never hit a lady, but not all females are "ladies". Women can be abusers too. Our jail had lots of female inmates, with charges ranging from prostitution to murder.

For all of those who say you should never put your hands on a woman, what would you do if a crazy female psychopath attacked you or someone you loved?
 
gofins60 said:
Right! I understand the concept that a man should never hit a lady, but not all females are "ladies". Women can be abusers too. Our jail had lots of female inmates, with charges ranging from prostitution to murder.

For all of those who say you should never put your hands on a woman, what would you do if a crazy female psychopath attacked you or someone you loved?
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There are clearly exceptions and hypotheticals. I think the scope of the initial conversation was it taking place in a consensual relationship.
 
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