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NFL | NFL Network being dropped
Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:24:07 -0700

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The Buffalo News reports the NFL Network very likely will be thrown for a loss Tuesday, Aug. 1, locally and nationally when it is expected to be dropped from the cable lineup after Adelphia's long-awaited takeover by Time Warner is completed. Buffalo, Dallas and Cleveland are the three NFL markets that had been getting The NFL Network and will lose it in the Adelphia-Time Warner deal, according to an NFL Network spokesman. "We pleaded to be left on while we continue to negotiate," e-mailed the spokesman, "especially since the first of 52 preseason games and 12 inside training camp shows begin, but Time Warner refused." As noted previously, the NFL Network plans to launch its own marketing campaign to let viewers understand their options, including satellite providers Dish Network and DirecTV on their "most affordable, basic packages."

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Yeah, Brighthouse here in FL and Time warner are all in agreement, they want to offer this to their customer for an additional fee like Dishs do, but the NFL said No. So these Cable companies won't offer it. As you know it's all about the DOUGH!!!

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Last week NFL Network suits said the first game of their new eight-game, prime time, regular-season package will be a matchup between Denver and Kansas City (November 23).

Will anyone be able to watch it?

While NFL Network brass has made a lot of noise about the new package, even fueling speculation over who might be behind the microphones, major cable operators - like Cablevision and Time Warner Cable - are saying that even with the games, chances are they won't be carrying the NFL Network in 2006.

According to these sources, if NFL owners think they are going to force these games down the cable industry's throat it will be the owners who end up gagging on them.

Well-embedded cable moles say there are a few reasons why the cable industry - at the present time - wants nothing to do with the NFL Network. One reason is about channel position. NFL Network brass wants the network to be carried on "expanded basic." Cable operators told them the network belongs on a digital sports tier where subscribers would pay a premium to purchase the NFL Network.

Now, with the addition of games, the price has become a major issue. Sources say the NFL Network wants not only to be on "expanded basic," but is looking to charge cable operators around $2 per month, per subscriber. Some cable industry executives say the price is "totally out of line" in relation to the "quality" of games the NFL Network will offer.

Furthermore, hometown fans of teams participating in NFL Network games will be able to see those tilts on an "over-the-air" channel (such as Ch. 9 or Ch. 5 here) in their market. So, if the Giants or Jets wind up playing on the NFL Network, the game would be made available here "over-the-air."

Besides pricing, placement and availability, there is a rocky history between systems like Cablevision, Time Warner and the NFL. This goes back about seven years when the league negotiated an exclusive "NFL Sunday Ticket" package with satellite provider DirecTV.

Cable industry sources said the NFL "promised" them when the deal with DirecTV expired the league would give them a chance to negotiate for the "NFL Sunday Ticket" package.

"That day came and went and they never talked to us," a cable mole said. "That left a sour taste in the industry's mouth."

The NFL Network currently does have a contract with Comcast, the nation's largest cable operator, but when the NFL Network acquired the package of games, it triggered a clause allowing the NFL to re-open the contract. Now, if NFL Network brass looks to drastically raise the price it was charging Comcast per month, per subscriber, it may end up being booted off Comcast's systems.

Remember, Comcast, which owns the Outdoor Life Network (OLN), tried purchasing the same package NFL owners eventually gave to their own network. So, at the present time, there is not exactly a love affair going on between Comcast and the NFL.

Or the rest of the cable industry for that matter.

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By Michael McCarthy, USA TODAY

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-07-27-nfl-network_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA

The NFL is preparing to launch a $100 million attack ad campaign over the next six months in an attempt to force cable TV operators to carry its NFL Network channel, which will begin airing regular-season games in November.
If the cable providers don't sign up, the NFL will urge consumers to switch to satellite TV operators that carry the channel, NFL Network spokesman Seth Palansky says.


The 2½-year-old channel also has basic cable and/or digital distribution deals with at least 75 cable operators, including Comcast, the nation's top cable provider, and reaches 41 million homes. With the NFL Network airing regular-season games beginning Thanksgiving night, the league thinks it has the leverage to force its way into 25 million more homes this season. The TV, radio, print and magazine ads, which will target cable operators by name, could begin as early as next week, Palansky says.

"We think it's asinine that Time Warner (the nation's No. 2 cable provider) carries 12 shopping channels and 50 other channels you don't want — but can't find room for one dedicated to the most popular sport in this country," Palansky says. "We're replacing the kid gloves with bare knuckles."

One ad aimed at Time Warner says, "Don't let Time Warner ruin your football season. You'll miss NFL games if you don't call and demand NFL Network now." Another targeting Cablevision, a provider in metro New York, warns, "Don't let Cablevision shut you out." The ad lists the channel's games and a toll-free number for NFL Network.

Time Warner Cable spokesman Mark Harrad says it "is still having discussions with the NFL Network." Cablevision's Marie Stenberg declined to comment
 
So how long before us comcast subscribers lose the NFL network?? There is nothing on this planet worse then greed.
 
The NFL is the most short-sighted business I have ever seen. The Madden and Directv deals, along with the handling of NFL Network, shows the NFL is willing to sacrifce long term success for very short term profit.
 
So let me get this straight.........the NFL wants a $2 cut per subscriber for the NFL network - a charge that the cable company could and would pass on to the customer who chooses to get the channel - and this is a problem???

Make the channel a premium channel, let the customers who want it pay for it. End of problem! Why do these jackasses make everything harder than it has to be???

EDIT - btw, I can't feel sorry for those about to lose the channel, as I have Cablevision and have never had it.
 
As I see it the cable companies don't want to pay anything extra for it and then they want to charge for it in the sports packages!
 
burger13 said:
So let me get this straight.........the NFL wants a $2 cut per subscriber for the NFL network - a charge that the cable company could and would pass on to the customer who chooses to get the channel - and this is a problem???

Make the channel a premium channel, let the customers who want it pay for it. End of problem! Why do these jackasses make everything harder than it has to be???
NFL Network brass wants the network to be carried on "expanded basic".
Does that answer your question?
 
burger13 said:
EDIT - btw, I can't feel sorry for those about to lose the channel, as I have Cablevision and have never had it.

Why was this comment necessary??
 
That sucks, I like the NFL Network. Its not a problem for me because I have DirecTV and thats part pf the basic package, it should be a part of the basic package for Cable.
 
feelthepain said:
So how long before us comcast subscribers lose the NFL network?? There is nothing on this planet worse then greed.


If comcast drops NFL Network, I drop comcast and go back to Direct TV
 
Another reason why I will never go back to a cable company. DirecTV IS the best out there for programming, service, and price. You might get one of those elsewhere, but you won't get all three of those items to jive together like DirecTV does.

After Regis in Buffalo, does Adelphia - Time Warner really need to be acting the hard arse???
 
Cobra84 said:
Does that answer your question?

I guess I got confused by this:

Now, with the addition of games, the price has become a major issue. Sources say the NFL Network wants not only to be on "expanded basic," but is looking to charge cable operators around $2 per month, per subscriber. Some cable industry executives say the price is "totally out of line" in relation to the "quality" of games the NFL Network will offer.

Why the hell does the NFL care if the cable companies make customers pay for their channel..........when the alternative is them not getting it at all.

I used to be pissed at my cable provider, but now I'm pissed at the NFL.
 
feelthepain said:
Why was this comment necessary??

Necessary? No..............but what on this board is?? :wink:

Just throwing it out there are people who are in a worse situation than those who are about to lose it

"Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." :(
 
These cable companies are the devil. The 1st year of the YES NETWORK it wasn't carried by Cablevision in NYC. People in NYC for one full year couldn't watch Yankee games.

Cable companies will HURT YOU (the customer) just to prove a point and pro-long a grudge. Cable Companies are evil. DIRECTV, if ya haven't learned by now you never will. Cable Companies suck.
 
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