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No new contract for Wilkins? Byron Jones restructured?

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Does the price only go up from this point forward? He's signed through 2023 with the 5th year option picked up at a salary of $10.753M. I expect him to have his best year to date and be on the cusp of that elite level of DL. But he's probably always going to be in that 2nd tier group of really, really good players. Which is fine, those guys are hard to find in their own right. So where do you put his value?

As a team that's already over the projected 2023 salary cap, surely we will need to cut that number in half with an extension. I think the FO is going to play the long game here and make CW wait it out and get antsy and hopefully take a team friendly deal.

Byron Jones isn't going anywhere in 2023 and his contract isn't one you want to even think about restructuring. They've already pushed some of his money into the future? We're on the hook for 5.3M in 2025, after his contract has expired following the 2024 season? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/byron-jones-16751/

I was out of the country for 3 weeks in July/August, did I miss that news? I'm seeing a base salary of 1.1M this year so I am assuming something happened, guess I could google it but it is what it is at this point.

The point is, it appears you have to lower CW's 2023 number at some point with an extension because there aren't many other avenue's to do that with. Releasing Chase Edmonds already on the table as an option? Are we restructuring Ogbah already? I don't want any part of pushing his money into the future. Don't see him as a long term fixture once the young kids need extensions.

Do we wait until after the season to do it? Do you need to know more about CW before paying CW? I kinda do. But I also know I'll pay more in February than I would today.

I'll throw this out there, if someone made a crazy offer for Wilkins, you'd be hard pressed not to take it. Not sure if it's harder to find good players or harder to pay them.

I'm planning on having Tua, Waddle, Holland and Jaelen Phillips for a LONG time. Which means BIG coin.
 
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Make Christian play it out this year. He’s only in year 4 plenty of time for Miami to make a long term decision there with him locked up on the 5th year option.

I’m sure it will be a priority this offseason one way or the other. I will say Wilkins play needs to be a lot more 2021 level than it was 2020 and 2019 but it appears at least in camp that it will be.

Impact the qb more in the pass game. Top shelf 3 techs do that
 
Wilkins is the target for retention... Needham, Van Ginkle, and Gesicki will probably be the losses.
We're over-leveraged and that was caused by Hill.
I didn't want to see this much churn, and would have gone with a draft pick approach, but I do understand why we did it.
 
hoops said:
Just consider you will get $11 mil back if you let gesicki walk
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But you don't actually get it back. You're already over the cap and working from a negative position. If anything you want the 2022 11M back to credit the 2023 cap.

In 2023 we're working from the bottom up for a change. I'm sure they have a plan, can't fathom what it would be. Obviously Wilkins will new contract will play a part but we don't have the kind of salaries we can start restructuring, was my greater point.

I am sure our 2023 overage hasn't factored yet for any roll over credits so that could alleviate much of the need for immediate cap space as the 2023 league year approaches. I'm seeing were only about 10.5M over the cap at the moment?
 
Feverdream said:
Wilkins is the target for retention... Needham, Van Ginkle, and Gesicki will probably be the losses.
We're over-leveraged and that was caused by Hill.
I didn't want to see this much churn, and would have gone with a draft pick approach, but I do understand why we did it.
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Which really makes the lost draft pick sting. That was a hole filling pick.
 
The Ghost said:
But you don't actually get it back. You're already over the cap and working from a negative position. If anything you want the 2022 11M back to credit the 2023 cap.

In 2023 we're working from the bottom up for a change. I'm sure they have a plan, can't fathom what it would be. Obviously Wilkins will new contract will play a part but we don't have the kind of salaries we can start restructuring, was my greater point.

I am sure our 2023 overage hasn't factored yet for any roll over credits so that could alleviate much of the need for immediate cap space as the 2023 league year approaches. I'm seeing were only about 10.5M over the cap at the moment?
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I’m sure we have easy cut options if need be to get out of money. We just have to make em.

I wouldn’t say Wilkins is must keep material yet. But he’s trending up at least. I need another year of consistent production
 
The Ghost said:
Which really makes the lost draft pick sting. That was a hole filling pick.
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I'm probably one of the very few on here that wasn't thrilled with the Hill trade. Between the loss of picks and the extravagant salary, he put us in a win now or else mode.
I understand it... people like that... but we had a young team and didn't HAVE to go in that direction.
I hope it works, but if we don't get to a Super Bowl in the next 2 years, it didn't.
 
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