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I’m neither a surgeon nor a neurologist, but I am a (die hard and concerned Fina fan) healthcare professional (physical therapist and osteopath), and have experience treating back and spinal injuries/disorders, as well as concussions.

My sense is that, even though Tua did not, (according to the independent neurologist who screened him during the game against Buffalo) have a concussion and was cleared to play (he did look sharp in the second half, especially south that 45 yard time to Waddle), does NOT mean there’s wasn’t an injury to his skull/brain/spinal cord. It’s not a black and white issue. The real inflammation sets in after the shock of the initial injury wear off. There’s no doubt that he injured his back with that first hit, as a jarring whiplash injury like that will lock up the dura mater (the outer layer of the sheath that covers the brain and spinal cord). It’s all connected!

Now, would Tua have been knocked out, as he was against Cincinnati, had he not got injured or re entered the game against Buffalo? I don’t think anyone can answer that. I will say, though, that his spinal cord, concussion or not, was already at a disadvantage with only 3 days rest since the Buffalo game, so his system was already working with a short deck. His body’s capacity of absorbing and adapting to a hit like that mas compromised. But again, that was a huge hit and may have happened the way it did anyway.

The important thing for him is to rest and HM get the necessary quality care he needs. The Upledger Institute in South Florida, where Ricky Williams went, is an amazing place that provides complementary medical care for these types of injuries.

Let’s hope the young man can heal quickly, get through yet another adversity, stay strong and stay healthy.

We’re all behind you, Tua! 🙏🏼 💪🏼 🙌🏼
Fins up!!! 🐬
 
...is a brain surgeon or neurologist. Shut the hell up.
Exactly. it's just a bunch of hyper reactionary Web MD users who act like they know what they're talking about. We have 10s of millions of dollars in medical resources and the best specialists in the world. Yet a bunch of keyboard warriors want to flex their no knowledge medical muscles.
 
I’m neither a surgeon nor a neurologist, but I am a (die hard and concerned Fina fan) healthcare professional (physical therapist and osteopath), and have experience treating back and spinal injuries/disorders, as well as concussions.

My sense is that, even though Tua did not, (according to the independent neurologist who screened him during the game against Buffalo) have a concussion and was cleared to play (he did look sharp in the second half, especially south that 45 yard time to Waddle), does NOT mean there’s wasn’t an injury to his skull/brain/spinal cord. It’s not a black and white issue. The real inflammation sets in after the shock of the initial injury wear off. There’s no doubt that he injured his back with that first hit, as a jarring whiplash injury like that will lock up the dura mater (the outer layer of the sheath that covers the brain and spinal cord). It’s all connected!

Now, would Tua have been knocked out, as he was against Cincinnati, had he not got injured or re entered the game against Buffalo? I don’t think anyone can answer that. I will say, though, that his spinal cord, concussion or not, was already at a disadvantage with only 3 days rest since the Buffalo game, so his system was already working with a short deck. His body’s capacity of absorbing and adapting to a hit like that mas compromised. But again, that was a huge hit and may have happened the way it did anyway.

The important thing for him is to rest and HM get the necessary quality care he needs. The Upledger Institute in South Florida, where Ricky Williams went, is an amazing place that provides complementary medical care for these types of injuries.

Let’s hope the young man can heal quickly, get through yet another adversity, stay strong and stay healthy.

We’re all behind you, Tua! 🙏🏼 💪🏼 🙌🏼
Fins up!!! 🐬
When you have morons saying on here, and even talking heads in the media "I don't need a doctor to tell me Tua had a concussion last week", is just gross and negligent. There won't be any repercussions.

It pisses me off.
 
When you have morons saying on here, and even talking heads in the media "I don't need a doctor to tell me Tua had a concussion last week", is just gross and negligent. There won't be any repercussions.

It pisses me off.
I think we’re a bit rattled with the situation. The important thing here is we all feel the same, and sick, and concerned for Tua’s health. We’ve got all kinds of characters in this board, and that’s what makes it Fin Heaven. People are entitled to their opinion, and I’d go out on a limb to say we’re all on the same team here guys.

From what it looked like against Buffalo, I too, honesty thought he was concussed. But I’ll have to defer to the medical crew, as A) I wasn’t there and B) I’m not a doctor.

So, let’s just rally and hope and pray for Tua’s full and speedy recovery.
 
Exactly. it's just a bunch of hyper reactionary Web MD users who act like they know what they're talking about. We have 10s of millions of dollars in medical resources and the best specialists in the world. Yet a bunch of keyboard warriors want to flex their no knowledge medical muscles.
These are the same people who print out the information they find on WebMD and bring it to their primary care physician insisting they have whatever disease they have diagnosed themselves with.
 
I’m neither a surgeon nor a neurologist, but I am a (die hard and concerned Fina fan) healthcare professional (physical therapist and osteopath), and have experience treating back and spinal injuries/disorders, as well as concussions.

My sense is that, even though Tua did not, (according to the independent neurologist who screened him during the game against Buffalo) have a concussion and was cleared to play (he did look sharp in the second half, especially south that 45 yard time to Waddle), does NOT mean there’s wasn’t an injury to his skull/brain/spinal cord. It’s not a black and white issue. The real inflammation sets in after the shock of the initial injury wear off. There’s no doubt that he injured his back with that first hit, as a jarring whiplash injury like that will lock up the dura mater (the outer layer of the sheath that covers the brain and spinal cord). It’s all connected!

Now, would Tua have been knocked out, as he was against Cincinnati, had he not got injured or re entered the game against Buffalo? I don’t think anyone can answer that. I will say, though, that his spinal cord, concussion or not, was already at a disadvantage with only 3 days rest since the Buffalo game, so his system was already working with a short deck. His body’s capacity of absorbing and adapting to a hit like that mas compromised. But again, that was a huge hit and may have happened the way it did anyway.

The important thing for him is to rest and HM get the necessary quality care he needs. The Upledger Institute in South Florida, where Ricky Williams went, is an amazing place that provides complementary medical care for these types of injuries.

Let’s hope the young man can heal quickly, get through yet another adversity, stay strong and stay healthy.

We’re all behind you, Tua! 🙏🏼 💪🏼 🙌🏼
Fins up!!! 🐬

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Tua should have known that if they got within three feet of him he was going down hard on his back ~ He should have known
 
You don't need to be a doctor to know Tua wasn't physically right heading into this game, **** he was listed as questionable. It was a bad decision to let him play, too much risk with minimal reward. McDaniel will learn from this, concussions aren't as black and white as people would like to believe. I Just hope he's OK.
 
Exactly. it's just a bunch of hyper reactionary Web MD users who act like they know what they're talking about. We have 10s of millions of dollars in medical resources and the best specialists in the world. Yet a bunch of keyboard warriors want to flex their no knowledge medical muscles.
It definitely feels as though a poster or two are furiously googling both medical diagnosis and NFL concussion protocols between posts.
 
You don't need to be a doctor to know Tua wasn't physically right heading into this game, **** he was listed as questionable. It was a bad decision to let him play, too much risk with minimal reward. McDaniel will learn from this, concussions aren't as black and white as people would like to believe. I Just hope he's OK.
Questionable due to back and ankle according to official report. He did not have a concussion before last night.
 
He was also checked through out from Sunday to last night for concussion symptoms and had none…and that came directly from the head Dr of the NFL
 
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