Not A Total Rebuild?

[Feverdream]

I don't think this was the way to go, but yes... they could be thinking that it isn't a total rebuild.

Assuming that we let Tua play for one more year, we'll need a highly drafted WR1 type, an OT, and an OG minimum, along with a middle round TE minimum.

If Chubb and Minkah are maintained, we'll need a highly drafted CB... along with tangible development from Trader, Marshall, Grant and a return to health for Kohou, as well as using Chop properly.

So maybe...
1st round: WR1
2nd round: CB
3rd: OT
3rd: OG
4th: TE

If they all work out... then maybe...

But that's a LOT of ifs... a lot.

The biggest breakdown for me is whether we could ever expect Jackson and Daniels to remain healthy.

 

[VAFinsfan72]

I mean...Ross is a master at keeping the team attractive enough to get asses in the seats, without providing any results, so it is what it is.

Unfortunately Ross doesn't want to go through another tear down and rebuild which we embarked on in 2019.

So he will continue to take half measures and short cuts to put a winning product on the field.

 

[MARINO1384]

Could be that's been the plan all along. For 2026, roll with McD or someone currently on staff and Kelly as caretaker GM while they serve their time in cap jail. No decent GM prospect is going to want the job (without an absurd contract to protect themselves) knowing 26 and 27 are essentially "dead cap" years.

I think that was the plan even with Grier here and they were expecting a down year and to retool next season however I didn’t expect them to be this bad. Guess it’s not that terrible as you are stuck with Tua another year, offense has looked pretty good aside from the colts and browns game and defense has looked solid lately. End of the day we are a play or two away from 3-4 more wins just have to clean up those mistakes. Unfortunately I’m not sure a mcdaniel’s coached team is capable of doing that.

 

[67Stang]

I am happy we didn't just give assets away in a fire sale.

 

[jaxphin38]

Am I upset that they didn't make any moves today sure. Of course just because they didn't doesn't mean they are happy with their roster. If they were then why was Grier fired? More than 85% of the roster needs to be turned over plain and simple. Tua isn't the answer I think we can all agree on that, but were stuck with him at least for another year.

 

[mlb1399]

I don't think this was the way to go, but yes... they could be thinking that it isn't a total rebuild.

Assuming that we let Tua play for one more year, we'll need a highly drafted WR1 type, an OT, and an OG minimum, along with a middle round TE minimum.

If Chubb and Minkah are maintained, we'll need a highly drafted CB... along with tangible development from Trader, Marshall, Grant and a return to health for Kohou, as well as using Chop properly.

So maybe...
1st round: WR1
2nd round: CB
3rd: OT
3rd: OG
4th: TE

If they all work out... then maybe...

But that's a LOT of ifs... a lot.

The biggest breakdown for me is whether we could ever expect Jackson and Daniels to remain healthy.

We have to go away from building around a QB who won’t be here in 2-3 years and filling needs. We need to take BPA regardless of who we have. Make no mistake about it, this is a total rebuild. Six years into our rebuild, we’re a bottom 5 team in the NFL without any elite player at any position.

 

[ryoung8918]

I think that was the plan even with Grier here and they were expecting a down year and to retool next season however I didn’t expect them to be this bad. Guess it’s not that terrible as you are stuck with Tua another year, offense has looked pretty good aside from the colts and browns game and defense has looked solid lately. End of the day we are a play or two away from 3-4 more wins just have to clean up those mistakes. Unfortunately I’m not sure a mcdaniel’s coached team is capable of doing that.

Don't think there will be a "retool" here, just taking the medicine of the cap overhead left from the Tua, Hill, Chubb, etc. restructures. Whatever they can get next year out of the current team +2026 draft class, they'll get.

Search for your future GM after 2026 and let them pick the new coaching staff. Not as gratifying as a full on tank, since you have to deal with looking at much of the same cast of characters that landed the Dolphins here in the first place...

(note: edit to add the word "get" in the second sentence)

 

[gofins60]

Brewer is perfect in this system.

Sorry, but I don't want the next regime to continue with McDaniel's finesse style of offense. I'd prefer a big, strong, tough, physically dominating o-line, and that's not Brewer.

 

[GRYPHONK]

One caveat to any of this... there was no need to move Chubb or Fitzpatrick today. It would have been nice, but once the season is over, they might be even easier to move, so watch what we do with them on draft day.

Very true!! Thanks for bringing me off the cliff lol

 

[Good_Dylan]

One thing that is obvious is that this bunch doesn’t know how to manage a pro football team and since they did nothing today you can rest assured tonight that they should have moved everyone

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

I don't think this was the way to go, but yes... they could be thinking that it isn't a total rebuild.

Assuming that we let Tua play for one more year, we'll need a highly drafted WR1 type, an OT, and an OG minimum, along with a middle round TE minimum.

If Chubb and Minkah are maintained, we'll need a highly drafted CB... along with tangible development from Trader, Marshall, Grant and a return to health for Kohou, as well as using Chop properly.

So maybe...
1st round: WR1
2nd round: CB
3rd: OT
3rd: OG
4th: TE

If they all work out... then maybe...

But that's a LOT of ifs... a lot.

The biggest breakdown for me is whether we could ever expect Jackson and Daniels to remain healthy.

Yeah, it seems like half measures especially if Ross is serious about sticking with McDaniel.

I do believe Miami now has three third round picks, so that will help the rebuild.

I would go with the strength of the draft. This team has so many needs, best player available makes so much sense. Can't draft Jackson over Jefferson, because you have left tackle higher on the hierarchy of value.

 

[Jamesw]

One caveat to any of this... there was no need to move Chubb or Fitzpatrick today. It would have been nice, but once the season is over, they might be even easier to move, so watch what we do with them on draft day.

Yes, some brothers act like we can’t trade players in the off-season. It’s a bit comical. Off-season is where the real action starts.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

Unfortunately Ross doesn't want to go through another tear down and rebuild which we embarked on in 2019.

So he will continue to take half measures and short cuts to put a winning product on the field.

Agree. Otherwise, I believe McDaniel would be gone.

At least it's an opportunity to find another GM and, hopefully, hit big with that hire.

Maybe Ross is looking at setting up another down year, for higher draft position in 2027 as well? Get the first, second or third best QB in what is being hailed as a terrific draft for quarterbacks.

 

[danmarino7051]

It's pretty close to a total rebuild. I think there's an interesting nucleus on offense with Achane, Waddle and Paul. Brewer is perfect in this system. Need a long term answer at quarterbacks, another plus receiver, and to continue to invest in the offensive line.

Defense is another story. Not sure there's a keeper in the secondary. Seiler and Brooks are good veterans. Grant, Jordan Phillips and Robinson hopefully reach their ceilings.

As an aside, I'd like to see Ewers get some starts and evaluate his potential.

Great post. A total rebuild, IMO, doesn’t need to include trading away your objectively young and very good to elite players. I mean, opinions differ and I guess there’s an argument or situation where you replace all 22 starters, but to me that’s overkill if you have the kinds of players the Dolphins have. Especially on their offense like you wrote. The Jets obviously felt differently, but they’re the Jets. Using them as the measuring stick for what to do in a rebuild is akin to asking your plumber if the chest pain your’re having is a heart attack.

 

[hmichaels]

If we get a good GM then it will matter less