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I saw last year that we are probably the worst Offense in the League without Tua. Forget about scoring, we couldn't even convert 1st downs without him. Then Tua comes back from the Injury and suddenly we can move the ball and score! Even then, I was surprised to see just how much difference Tua makes in his 3 years with McDaniel per Stats below. I found the Stats on reddit and it says 33rd Team so I believe they are the source. I am surprised by some fans and reporters, such as Brian Miller of Phin Phanatic and Dave Hyde for trying to create negativity by running from the truth that Tua's 6 game absence was the main reason for Dolphins not making Playoffs last year. Sure, there were other major injuries to Chubb, J. Phillips, Austin Jackson, even Tyreek playing through his injury, that also contributed to missing the Playoffs but they all count as Injuries being the main reason. By the way, the stats below make Tua a top 5 producing QB in the NFL!

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Tua also accomplished this without a running game that produces in short-yardage. And without a top half of the league offensive line.

Think what he can do if the offensive line and short-yardage run game improves? Specifically, point production should go up. Time of possession and more offensive opportunities as well.
 
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What's crazy, outside the context of what these numbers mean to our team, is that the jobbers at the bottom of the table are now completing 60% of their passes. Showing my age, but when I was young, 60% would have represented a very accurate passer, like Montana. Elway's career % was under 57%!
 
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this stats cannot exsist if they prove the narrative tua sucks incorrect.. these must be purged and removed from all exsistence.. HOW DARE YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT GOES AGAINS THIS NARRATIVE..

MOD'S BAN THIS HEATHEN .

(joking ofc)

but incoming... but well my eye test says he sucks, you mean the eye tests of people who prob never played the game at all, or the eye tests of pundits who... never played the game at all.
like when former great qbs like Kurt warner have been sayin for years how good Tua is, as well as other great former qbs or even coachs of defenses who have played against him, that to me is all the credibilty you need

at this point I feel alot of people special the pundits that still crap on him, are people who called him bad, and when he proved other wise couldn't admit they were wrong.. so it became this whole.. its all cause of mcdaniels, its all cause of tyreek.. its dumb

as much as I am not a fan at leasst collin cowhead back tracked on his view of Tua last year after the rams game and gave him his flowers.. and I respect him for that tbh
 
Most of the truly anti-Tua people are just spoiled children masquerading as adults.

These bitter brothers just want... need someone to blame for their unhappiness.

I had one of these poor bastards block me the other day... and despite the fact that this guy has been here for years. I just don't miss his bitter pessimism.
 
DolphinVJ said:
I saw last year that we are probably the worst Offense in the League without Tua. Forget about scoring, we couldn't even convert 1st downs without him. Then Tua comes back from the Injury and suddenly we can move the ball and score! Even then, I was surprised to see just how much difference Tua makes in his 3 years with McDaniel per Stats below. I found the Stats on reddit and it says 33rd Team so I believe they are the source. I am surprised by some fans and reporters, such as Brian Miller of Phin Phanatic and Dave Hyde for trying to create negativity by running from the truth that Tua's 6 game absence was the main reason for Dolphins not making Playoffs last year. Sure, there were other major injuries to Chubb, J. Phillips, Austin Jackson, even Tyreek playing through his injury, that also contributed to missing the Playoffs but they all count as Injuries being the main reason. By the way, the stats below make Tua a top 5 producing QB in the NFL!

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this is absurd. first of all it is nonsense to think comapring tua to skylar thompson or tyrod taylor makes any sort of point. then, tua played 11 games. so there is data on how tua looked and how the team looked with tua. they were 6-5 with tua, against a joke schedule. still not good. nor was he despite his "completion %"
 
My question is, seeing Tua's imprtance, if Miami is out of the playoff hunt with 3 or 4 games remaining would you sit him the remaining of the season? I mean, why risk injury in a meaningless game? Even if he's healthy, I might not play him 17 games in some seasons. Also sitting him in 4th quarters of games that are out of hand with Miami leading or trailing by a big margin.
 
Instead of obscure offensive rankings that have no contextual relevance, how 'bout the stat that directly shows how well the team plays in the league?

You know...their streak of 1 win vs. a playoff team/team with winning record, per season (2 years running). That is including 2023 when Tua played the full season. I'm not saying he's the primary reason, but he's in the mix.

That's a more relevant, telling stat, IMO.
 
hoops said:
Such a wierd argument

You don’t have to be good to be competent at something. Tua is largely competent he’s not always good.

Especially down the home stretch of a season when he’s been damn near replace me level.
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Last 7 games of 2024
5-2
272 yards per game
72.7 completion %
7 YPA
14 TDS to 4 INTS
102.3 rating
Weekly reminder from the in game commentators that Tua pretty much saved McDaniels job coming back from his concussion.

Yeah, 32 GMS would want to replace that final stretch production ASAP
 
GRYPHONK said:
Last 7 games of 2024
5-2
272 yards per game
72.7 completion %
7 YPA
14 TDS to 4 INTS
102.3 rating
Weekly reminder from the in game commentators that Tua pretty much saved McDaniels job coming back from his concussion.

Yeah, 32 GMS would want to replace that final stretch production ASAP
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lol let’s not include the fact that he missed tbe final 2 games yet again. Why stop at 7 games go the last 9? After he missed the 4 prior.

That’s not a stretch run. We weren’t going anywhere in 24 in those final 2 games he missed anyways. Year prior he stunk up the joint down the stretch.

Maybe this year will be different and he will build on that 9 I mean 7 game 24 run prior to going out yet again down the stretch.
 
hoops said:
lol let’s not include the fact that he missed tbe final 2 games yet again. Why stop at 7 games go the last 9? After he missed the 4 prior.

That’s not a stretch run. We weren’t going anywhere in 24 in those final 2 games he missed anyways. Year prior he stunk up the joint down the stretch.

Maybe this year will be different and he will build on that 9 I mean 7 game 24 run prior to going out yet again down the stretch.
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Sorry that the facts don't fit your narrative.

You stated he plays at "replace me level" down the final stretch.

You wanna move the goal posts, go ahead. His injury concerns are a completely different issue or concern.

But, sorry, in 2024, Tua missed your memo that he plays at "replace me level" down the stretch.
 
GRYPHONK said:
Sorry that the facts don't fit your narrative.

You stated he plays at "replace me level" down the final stretch.

You wanna move the goal posts, go ahead. His injury concerns are a completely different issue or concern.

But, sorry, in 2024, Tua missed your memo that he plays at "replace me level" down the stretch.
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He didnt play down the stretch. You guys and your bs I swear.

I guess I should have said down the stretch with anything on the line he’s played damn near replace me level. Cause he has.

Only time we’ve had anything riding on it was 23 and he sucked. Rest of the time he’s been hurt or on ir already.
 
phinsforlife said:
this is absurd. first of all it is nonsense to think comapring tua to skylar thompson or tyrod taylor makes any sort of point. then, tua played 11 games. so there is data on how tua looked and how the team looked with tua. they were 6-5 with tua, against a joke schedule. still not good. nor was he despite his "completion %"
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No what’s absurd is you continuing to use “6-5 against a joke schedule” statement when you’ve been exposed about the statement in the past.

You know damn well Tua played the harder part of the schedule (bills x2, rams,cards, Green Bay, Houston and however you want to classify the 9ers), while missing games vs Cleveland,jets,tenn and New England which severely lowered opp win % that would make it a “joke of a schedule”. Furthermore Tua had Miami up or tied in 8 of the 11 games he played when he left the field but I know reality doesn’t matter to you so you’ll probably continue to spread your pure untrue bs anyways.
 
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