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VAFinsfan72 said:
Thats what the Bills offered us at the trade deadline.
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That has never been confirmed to my satisfaction, by anyone anyone in either organization.

Perhaps it might have happened. Perhaps it was the Pats that made the offer as the report I saw didn't name the bills, rather "another AFCE team" was cited. Or it was pure speculation.

Hell, maybe the Phins/Grier started the rumor themselves.

My point is, stating it as fact is doing so without actual evidence.
 
MrClean said:
Emtman did not reach his potential due to injuries. That list is the inane idiocy of an idiot.
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I suppose it depends upon one's definition of "bust".

A lot of times you can't predict injuries, but other times there are indicators.

I wouldn't call drafting Tua a "bust", but I would call drafting him an easily foreseen mistake and the subsequent contract a very expensive, very easily foreseen disaster.
 
Mach2 said:
I suppose it depends upon one's definition of "bust".

A lot of times you can't predict injuries, but other times there are indicators.

I wouldn't call drafting Tua a "bust", but I would call drafting him an easily foreseen mistake and the subsequent contract a very expensive, very easily foreseen disaster.
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Busts don't get paid like he did when contract time came. Tua was more like a mirage ... a hindsight example to prevent the same trap in the future.

Busts burn out after a few seasons ... the special ones don't even make it 1. Russell played parts of 3 seasons so he's not as unanimous as people think.

Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Russell, Andre Ware ... and you almost have to include #3 overall Trey Lance at this point. Those are your all time 6.
 
BobDole said:
Busts don't get paid like he did when contract time came. Tua was more like a mirage ... a hindsight example to prevent the same trap in the future.

Busts burn out after a few seasons ... the special ones don't even make it 1. Russell played parts of 3 seasons so he's not as unanimous as people think.

Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Russell, Andre Ware ... and you almost have to include #3 overall Trey Lance at this point. Those are your all time 6.
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Like I said, opinions vary on what constitutes a bust. I'm not aware of a precise dictionary definition so it's a bit nebulous. If you want to go the "concesus is correct" line of thought, I believe most would say Russell was a bust, but RG3 was an injury derailment, rather than a bust.

I would call Russell a bust by my definition.
 
BobDole said:
Busts don't get paid like he did when contract time came. Tua was more like a mirage ... a hindsight example to prevent the same trap in the future.

Busts burn out after a few seasons ... the special ones don't even make it 1. Russell played parts of 3 seasons so he's not as unanimous as people think.

Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Russell, Andre Ware ... and you almost have to include #3 overall Trey Lance at this point. Those are your all time 6.
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Andre Ware....... Now there's a blast from the past. The hay day of the run and shoot offense.

We're showing our advanced age... lol.
 
Mach2 said:
Like I said, opinions vary on what constitutes a bust. I'm not aware of a precise dictionary definition so it's a bit nebulous. If you want to go the "concesus is correct" line of thought, I believe most would say Russell was a bust, but RG3 was an injury derailment, rather than a bust.

I would call Russell a bust by my definition.
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I meant unanimous all time in terms of Russell ... there's no question he busted ... and hard. He was bad enough to be in the #1 conversation ... but Leaf and Smith were on the same level of tragic.
 
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