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No criticism of the draft allowed!

Let's all post about how Parcells has made a bunch of genius picks and will lead the Dolphins back to success!
 
Well............How about if you just thought the draft was good and liked it, honestly?

I think it could've been better but, Parcells clearly went after BPA, which I support every time, rather than reaching for questionable talent in the secondary and Wideout.

ETA: Oh yeah...You had Booker man-love, right? Dude....He was the thrid RB on the chart. Get over it. You can go root for the Eagles if you like. I've been around when we had to cut Marino loose......Booker doesn't even rate on the "Care 'O Meter."
 
Cant tell if this is meant to be sarcastic, but most people (outside of this message board) love our draft, which leads me to believe that we have overanalyzed it and are just being fickle. Keep in mind that we, unlike the majority of teams, have looked forward to this day since about October. :lol: We were experts by the time today rolled around!
 
GoonBoss said:
Well............How about if you just thought the draft was good and liked it, honestly?

I think it could've been better but, Parcells clearly went after BPA, which I support every time, rather than reaching for questionable talent in the secondary and Wideout.

ETA: Oh yeah...You had Booker man-love, right? Dude....He was the thrid RB on the chart. Get over it. You can go root for the Eagles if you like. I've been around when we had to cut Marino loose......Booker doesn't even rate on the "Care 'O Meter."
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I thought the first day was pretty solid altogether. We drafted a genuinely talented (and young) quarterback, which was a huge need. I would've preferred Matt Ryan, but you can't really be upset with a potential franchise left tackle. Merling was a good pick.

The problem came with the second day, when Parcells passed on a whole slew of talented players to reach for Langford. I know he tore it up at DI-AA Hampton, but I think he could've been had much later. Dan Connor was a projected first rounder and would've probably been Zach Thomas all over again. Manningham was still there and in case nobody noticed, our wide receivers are pretty bad. The rest of the draft was just as random. We drafted a guy who was discovered in an on-campus gym. We drafted two sixth-round "Hope we get lucky" running backs. What I don't get is why you do that when you have Ronnie Brown. Sure, there's a chance his injury isn't the same, but these days that doesn't happen. Willis McGahee came back from his injury and there's no reason to think Brown won't. Besides, if you are taking chances late in the draft, why not try a position of need?

I'm just sick and tired of people blindly following the front office because they're football professionals and they know better than us. These are the same people who blindly agreed with every move Saban and Cameron made, and how were those? Some were good, sure, but some were wasted. It wasn't any different than Wannstedt. People are telling me (or really anybody who sees some problems with the draft) that we don't know better than the front office when we've got recent history suggesting a fortune cookie might have known more than the front office.

By the way, I don't care in the least what happened to Lorenzo Booker.
 
since i have no reason at all to think this draft is a complete failure, i'll just go ahead and take the positive attitude that it's a great draft and will help the team greatly.
 
flintsilver7 said:
I thought the first day was pretty solid altogether. We drafted a genuinely talented (and young) quarterback, which was a huge need. I would've preferred Matt Ryan, but you can't really be upset with a potential franchise left tackle. Merling was a good pick.

The problem came with the second day, when Parcells passed on a whole slew of talented players to reach for Langford. I know he tore it up at DI-AA Hampton, but I think he could've been had much later. Dan Connor was a projected first rounder and would've probably been Zach Thomas all over again. Manningham was still there and in case nobody noticed, our wide receivers are pretty bad. The rest of the draft was just as random. We drafted a guy who was discovered in an on-campus gym. We drafted two sixth-round "Hope we get lucky" running backs. What I don't get is why you do that when you have Ronnie Brown. Sure, there's a chance his injury isn't the same, but these days that doesn't happen. Willis McGahee came back from his injury and there's no reason to think Brown won't. Besides, if you are taking chances late in the draft, why not try a position of need?

I'm just sick and tired of people blindly following the front office because they're football professionals and they know better than us. These are the same people who blindly agreed with every move Saban and Cameron made, and how were those? Some were good, sure, but some were wasted. It wasn't any different than Wannstedt. People are telling me (or really anybody who sees some problems with the draft) that we don't know better than the front office when we've got recent history suggesting a fortune cookie might have known more than the front office.

By the way, I don't care in the least what happened to Lorenzo Booker.
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MANY call Langford the sleeper of the entire draft. Lest we forget that Mr. Demarcus Ware came from a small school. There have been a number of small school prospects that have succeeded in the NFL. Dont count him out because he didnt go to Penn State. The Connor and Manningham picks were flashy, but both werent fits for us. Connor is slightly frail for this scheme, and even if you stick him at ILB, we just acquired Ayodele, and have Crowder and Torbor at the position. Hardly a 'need'. Manningham was never going to be an option with those off-field concerns. I mean, lying to NFL personnel people, are you kidding me? That was never going to fly with Parcells and Ireland, who are trying to change the culture in Davie.

I wont go into the rest, but without Lorenzo, you could argue RB was a bigger need than WR, and this guy is strikingly similar to Marian Barber.
 
flintsilver7 said:
I thought the first day was pretty solid altogether. We drafted a genuinely talented (and young) quarterback, which was a huge need. I would've preferred Matt Ryan, but you can't really be upset with a potential franchise left tackle. Merling was a good pick.

The problem came with the second day, when Parcells passed on a whole slew of talented players to reach for Langford. I know he tore it up at DI-AA Hampton, but I think he could've been had much later. Dan Connor was a projected first rounder and would've probably been Zach Thomas all over again. Manningham was still there and in case nobody noticed, our wide receivers are pretty bad. The rest of the draft was just as random. We drafted a guy who was discovered in an on-campus gym. We drafted two sixth-round "Hope we get lucky" running backs. What I don't get is why you do that when you have Ronnie Brown. Sure, there's a chance his injury isn't the same, but these days that doesn't happen. Willis McGahee came back from his injury and there's no reason to think Brown won't. Besides, if you are taking chances late in the draft, why not try a position of need?

I'm just sick and tired of people blindly following the front office because they're football professionals and they know better than us. These are the same people who blindly agreed with every move Saban and Cameron made, and how were those? Some were good, sure, but some were wasted. It wasn't any different than Wannstedt. People are telling me (or really anybody who sees some problems with the draft) that we don't know better than the front office when we've got recent history suggesting a fortune cookie might have known more than the front office.

By the way, I don't care in the least what happened to Lorenzo Booker.
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No offense..But, they are and, they do. (As far as Parcells/Ireland knowing stuff)

Do I like the whole draft? not really. I'm not completely happy, but, I see a tone and, tenor to this draft. Parcells is ripping the rotted guts out of this organization, and, it's going to hurt, but, I think we'll be a better team for it.

 
Dolfan1000 said:
MANY call Langford the sleeper of the entire draft. Lest we forget that Mr. Demarcus Ware came from a small school. There have been a number of small school prospects that have succeeded in the NFL. Dont count him out because he didnt go to Penn State. The Connor and Manningham picks were flashy, but both werent fits for us. Connor is slightly frail for this scheme, and even if you stick him at ILB, we just acquired Ayodele, and have Crowder and Torbor at the position. Hardly a 'need'. Manningham was never going to be an option with those off-field concerns. I mean, lying to NFL personnel people, are you kidding me? That was never going to fly with Parcells and Ireland, who are trying to change the culture in Davie.

I wont go into the rest, but without Lorenzo, you could argue RB was a bigger need than WR, and this guy is strikingly similar to Marian Barber.
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Langford may indeed be the sleeper of the draft. Unfortunately, by the numbers, he's more likely to be a footnote in the NFL history books. Sure, there are some small-school guys doing quite well in the NFL right now. It CAN be done, but that doesn't mean it will be done. I just see it as a big risk and as I've said many times I think Langford could've been had with a later pick. I don't really see why Ayodele and Torbor are better "fits" than Connor. Ayodele is a serviceable starter who I would equate to Morlon Greenwood while Torbor is more or less a depth guy. Connor isn't gigantic, but middle linebackers don't need to be since their primary purpose is not pass rushing.
 
flintsilver7 said:
Langford may indeed be the sleeper of the draft. Unfortunately, by the numbers, he's more likely to be a footnote in the NFL history books. Sure, there are some small-school guys doing quite well in the NFL right now. It CAN be done, but that doesn't mean it will be done. I just see it as a big risk and as I've said many times I think Langford could've been had with a later pick. I don't really see why Ayodele and Torbor are better "fits" than Connor. Ayodele is a serviceable starter who I would equate to Morlon Greenwood while Torbor is more or less a depth guy. Connor isn't gigantic, but middle linebackers don't need to be since their primary purpose is not pass rushing.
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Parcells drafted Dat Nuyen. He clearly saw somthing in him and, did not discriminate on size parameters. I'll trust that Parcells knows what he's doing. Conner was small for this system and, clearly, Parcells judeged that his intangibles didn't overcome his size.

ETA: "Sycophant" makes you seem pretty much an arrogant elietist in the context of a sports board thread.
 
I'll bet (proportionally) there are just as many busts from big schools. Its become pretty common in today's NFL to have guys from Tennessee State going before The U. Just as big schools guys CAN work out, it doesnt mean they are guarantees. Your assumption about him being available later could have merit, but for all we know, he could have gone with the next pick. Thats no reason to call a pick a failure when we dont have that information.

Ayodele and Torbor are both near 250 pounds, as MLBs typically are in this defense. Connor is barely 235 and is already considered a touch slow. Imagine with another 10-15 pounds added on?
 
Not a big fan of Connor from what I have seen. Langford is very athletic for his size, while Connor succeeded because of the PSU system more than his raw talent.
 
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