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While being surprised at the some of the Dolphins picks, I must say this draft showed me something. We aren't planning for a run next year. We are planning for two years from now and building for the long term. While people are pissed about our later picks, let's remember there is a reason certain picks like Mckinney weren't picked at all in the first round and did you really want an Alabama safety haha.

Tua- redshirt year. He will sit and learn this year, but a year ago no one thought that if you didn't have the first pick you would have a shot at him. Bravo to this staff for staying put and getting a consensus too pick. Hopefully these injuries were flukes.

Jackson- most people had him as the top tackle or at least a top 10 pick in next years draft. The kid is 20 years old and has huge huge potential. How many linemen are good year one? The answer is under 5 percent. Its so rare for a linemen to come into this league and be a quality starter. Why not take a guy who can grow into a dominant player in time. His situation with his back really hurt him early this season but it wasn't an injury he hurt his body for the good of his family and as the season went on grew stronger and stronger. Why take a 2nd tier tackle when you might have gotten a top 10 pick a year early as a discount.

Igbinoghene- another guy who can develop. Beyond raw as he was a wr. But there is talent and speed. A year a so away...probably. However, after not knowing a ton about him its impressive how many people are really high on him. This system uses a ton of corners and values them highly. I have no issue with getting a DB and a 4th rounder. 2 Olympian parents probably means work ethic is engrained here.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if we converted Igbinoghene to safety, or at least had him work there, and used Byron Jones as a safety at times, too. This was a real head scratcher for me at first, but the more I think about it, the more I understand it. This was a BPA move more than anything else.

Jackson was an absolute need pick. Perhaps a bit of a reach but not an extreme one. We still need another lineman or two in this draft. It looks like we'll use Davis to protect Tua's blindside this year but I'm off the opinion he'd be a better guard.

I really want us to land another tackle, a running back, and a safety.
 
theFreak41 said:
I wouldn't be shocked if we converted Igbinoghene to safety, or at least had him work there, ...
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His skill is tight man to man coverage. That skill is necessary in our D, and not every CB coming out can do it. He will be our 3rd corner and cover the slot. He is not going to Safety. If you look at Ted Slim’s predraft ratings in the draft forum, he had him as the 3rd best CB in the draft. Ted knows his stuff. I think it was a combination of excellent player with a highly valued skill set.
 
Two picks today. We need another OL, a safety, RB, and DT.
I wonder what we do.
 
NJeff said:
While being surprised at the some of the Dolphins picks, I must say this draft showed me something. We aren't planning for a run next year. We are planning for two years from now and building for the long term. While people are pissed about our later picks, let's remember there is a reason certain picks like Mckinney weren't picked at all in the first round and did you really want an Alabama safety haha.

Tua- redshirt year. He will sit and learn this year, but a year ago no one thought that if you didn't have the first pick you would have a shot at him. Bravo to this staff for staying put and getting a consensus too pick. Hopefully these injuries were flukes.

Jackson- most people had him as the top tackle or at least a top 10 pick in next years draft. The kid is 20 years old and has huge huge potential. How many linemen are good year one? The answer is under 5 percent. Its so rare for a linemen to come into this league and be a quality starter. Why not take a guy who can grow into a dominant player in time. His situation with his back really hurt him early this season but it wasn't an injury he hurt his body for the good of his family and as the season went on grew stronger and stronger. Why take a 2nd tier tackle when you might have gotten a top 10 pick a year early as a discount.

Igbinoghene- another guy who can develop. Beyond raw as he was a wr. But there is talent and speed. A year a so away...probably. However, after not knowing a ton about him its impressive how many people are really high on him. This system uses a ton of corners and values them highly. I have no issue with getting a DB and a 4th rounder. 2 Olympian parents probably means work ethic is engrained here.
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The good news on Iggy is, when on the field, M2M, he'll be covering the opponent's 3rd best WR. Is he twitchy enough to play slot?
Jackson? His age concerns me, but the talent is there.
 
After watching the 1st few games of last year, Watching L. Jackson treating our secondary like it was Madden on easy. They can draft ad many people for the Secondary they need so i dont eveer have to witness that again. Good job Grier
 
I don't understand the philosophy. The Tua pick was solid since they let him come to them. The OL was a reach at a position of need. The CB was a luxury pick and a bit of a reach at a position of strength. While the reaches aren't horribly bad in and of themselves, I just can't help but wonder what Grier is doing here. If we aren't afraid of trading, why not move up for a blue chip OL prospect Instead of standing pat and reaching? From there, then trade out farther with the 3rd pick and get the CB in the 2nd.

This team needs talent everywhere, and BPA would be totally acceptable for the rest of the draft, but we essentially traded known excellent talent at LT and CB/Safety, to reach for replacements who are best described as raw with upside. I know for many on this board, the Tua pick covers the draft On its own, but to me, the rest of the round 1 draft is a real puzzler and I just don't see where they have made great value selections.
 
I actually really like the CB pick more than a lot of people around here. There are a few people out there like Shrager who said he could sneak into round 1. I also trust Boyers eye more than TV commentators when it comes to Defensive backs.

This kid hasn’t played CB long, and faced people like Jefferson out of LSU, and didn’t do that bad of a job for being so raw and new to the position. Im confident he’s going to get coached up and refined under our DC.
 
NJeff said:
While being surprised at the some of the Dolphins picks, I must say this draft showed me something. We aren't planning for a run next year. We are planning for two years from now and building for the long term. While people are pissed about our later picks, let's remember there is a reason certain picks like Mckinney weren't picked at all in the first round and did you really want an Alabama safety haha.

Tua- redshirt year. He will sit and learn this year, but a year ago no one thought that if you didn't have the first pick you would have a shot at him. Bravo to this staff for staying put and getting a consensus too pick. Hopefully these injuries were flukes.

Jackson- most people had him as the top tackle or at least a top 10 pick in next years draft. The kid is 20 years old and has huge huge potential. How many linemen are good year one? The answer is under 5 percent. Its so rare for a linemen to come into this league and be a quality starter. Why not take a guy who can grow into a dominant player in time. His situation with his back really hurt him early this season but it wasn't an injury he hurt his body for the good of his family and as the season went on grew stronger and stronger. Why take a 2nd tier tackle when you might have gotten a top 10 pick a year early as a discount.

Igbinoghene- another guy who can develop. Beyond raw as he was a wr. But there is talent and speed. A year a so away...probably. However, after not knowing a ton about him its impressive how many people are really high on him. This system uses a ton of corners and values them highly. I have no issue with getting a DB and a 4th rounder. 2 Olympian parents probably means work ethic is engrained here.
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You don’t post much. Can you post more often? Please
 
Bartowboy said:
After watching the 1st few games of last year, Watching L. Jackson treating our secondary like it was Madden on easy. They can draft ad many people for the Secondary they need so i dont eveer have to witness that again. Good job Grier
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Let me know when we can stop the run and pressure QB's. We were near the bottom in pressures last year, and we can't stop the run. We also can't run the ball or protect the QB. We addressed only one of those needs so far, and that was by taking a pretty good reach with our second pick.
 
volk said:
I don't understand the philosophy. The Tua pick was solid since they let him come to them. The OL was a reach at a position of need. The CB was a luxury pick and a bit of a reach at a position of strength. While the reaches aren't horribly bad in and of themselves, I just can't help but wonder what Grier is doing here. If we aren't afraid of trading, why not move up for a blue chip OL prospect Instead of standing pat and reaching? From there, then trade out farther with the 3rd pick and get the CB in the 2nd.

This team needs talent everywhere, and BPA would be totally acceptable for the rest of the draft, but we essentially traded known excellent talent at LT and CB/Safety, to reach for replacements who are best described as raw with upside. I know for many on this board, the Tua pick covers the draft On its own, but to me, the rest of the round 1 draft is a real puzzler and I just don't see where they have made great value selections.
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I just think Grier has faith in Flores’ coaching up players ability. He’s proven that. I’m on board with that
 
volk said:
Let me know when we can stop the run and pressure QB's. We were near the bottom in pressures last year, and we can't stop the run. We also can't run the ball or protect the QB. We addressed only one of those needs so far, and that was by taking a pretty good reach with our second pick.
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I think that was the point of picking up the 2 Dlinemen in FA. I think you might see Another Dlinemen come off my guess is in the 3 or 4th round.
 
One good shot by an NFL linemen Tua's done
A brief history of Tua Tagovailoa’s injuries throughout his career

March 20, 2018: Tagovailoa breaks finger in spring practice

Oct. 6, 2018: Tagovailoa suffers sprained right knee

Nov. 10, 2018: Tagovailoa leaves game against Mississippi State with quad injury

Dec. 1, 2018: Tagovailoa suffers high ankle sprain during SEC Championship vs. Georgia

Oct. 20, 2019: Tagovailoa suffers high ankle sprain in opposite ankle

Nov. 16, 2019: Tagovailoa dislocates right hip against Mississippi State
 
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