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Henne has got to look off his primary receivers. He is going to absolutely killed in the regular season if he can not do this simple requirement of any QB. He might be able to get away with this in the Preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but it won't cut it in a regular season. I am really worried about our "QB of the future". You think he would have learned this by now.:rolleyes2:
 
well you shouldn't be "really worried" about this... first off most of his throws were coming with pressure into his face, where he has to make a quick read and throw it... looking off receivers is not something you have time to do on quick patterns...

the majority of pass plays in the NFL every qb starts a play looking at their primary receiver, and throw it to that primary receiver... maybe you can say Chad didn't go through his progressions and try his 2nd and 3rd options, but if the primary guy is open you tend to throw him the ball...

but you dont always have time to look off receivers... thats something to manipulate a safety on certain patterns, you dont have to look off a safety on a 10 yard out pattern...
 
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I thought he really looked good considering this was his first live game he's played in awhile. I'm not worried at all about our QB of the future
 
DKphin said:
Henne has got to look off his primary receivers. He is going to absolutely killed in the regular season if he can not do this simple requirement of any QB. He might be able to get away with this in the Preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but it won't cut it in a regular season. I am really worried about our "QB of the future". You think he would have learned this by now.:rolleyes2:
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Chad Pennington does the same thing. Ed Reed mention this as one of the reasons he was able to get a jump on some of Pennington's passes during the playoff game.
 
Geforce said:
Chad Pennington does the same thing. Ed Reed mention this as one of the reasons he was able to get a jump on some of Pennington's passes during the playoff game.
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Exactly....with the difference being Henne can fit the ball into a tighter window...he has a larger margin for error in this situation than Pennington...

Staring down his primary has always been something Henne has needed to work on....a quarterback can improve on this by being able to recognize coverages sooner.....allowing him to ANTICIPATE his receiver coming open rather than having to see it first...

The only way this can happen is to experience the coverages....in games....combined with getting used to the overall speed of the defense...

You have to know where you're going with the football before you can manipulate a safety....Sanchez did this to perfection on his long completion versus the Rams....
 
DKphin said:
Henne has got to look off his primary receivers. He is going to absolutely killed in the regular season if he can not do this simple requirement of any QB. He might be able to get away with this in the Preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but it won't cut it in a regular season. I am really worried about our "QB of the future". You think he would have learned this by now.:rolleyes2:
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I agree...I saw the same thing...he doesn't even try to fake out the secondary.
 
TedSlimmJr said:
You have to know where you're going with the football before you can manipulate a safety....Sanchez did this to perfection on his long completion versus the Rams....
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thats a pretty false speculation... what it looked like was his primary was covered, and he went to his 2nd option...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/09000d5d811e68c8/Pre-WK-1-Mark-Sanchez-highlights

you can tell from the hesitation after he came across the field... again if the primary was open, he probably would have passed it to him, its not staring anyone down, its throwing to your primary receiver... it wasn't there though, so he went to his next read, and hit him... good play, but he wasn't trying to manipulate the safety...

not to mention when you watch that replay from the back view that safety was covering the TE on that play before Sanchez threw the pass... that play had zero percent to do with looking off anyone, its called going to your second read...
 
The QB ability to look off the safety also depends on what type of route the primary receiver is running. If it's something short or requires timing where the safety being in the middle of the field won't affect the pass, there is no need for the QB to look the safety off. It also has to do with what the QB's pre-snap read.
 
arsenal said:
thats a pretty false speculation... what it looked like was his primary was covered, and he went to his 2nd option...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/09000d5d811e68c8/Pre-WK-1-Mark-Sanchez-highlights

you can tell from the hesitation after he came across the field... again if the primary was open, he probably would have passed it to him, its not staring anyone down, its throwing to your primary receiver... it wasn't there though, so he went to his next read, and hit him... good play, but he wasn't trying to manipulate the safety...

not to mention when you watch that replay from the back view that safety was covering the TE on that play before Sanchez threw the pass... that play had zero percent to do with looking off anyone, its called going to your second read...
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I don't see a video.....but that's not what happened...

In fact...if you'll read the AP article.....Sanchez already knew he was airing it out on his first pass....that was the play that was called....

Clowney was his primary....Sanchez looked left to the middle of the field to HOLD the safety.....he went BACK to his primary Clowney down the sidelines....
 
TedSlimmJr said:
I don't see a video.....but that's not what happened...

In fact...if you'll read the AP article.....Sanchez already knew he was airing it out on his first pass....that was the play that was called....

Clowney was his primary....Sanchez looked left to the middle of the field to HOLD the safety.....he went BACK to his primary Clowney down the sidelines....
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watch the video... the link is there
 
arsenal said:
watch the video... the link is there
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Now it's there....it wasn't there when I clicked on it the first time...

He did exactly what I said....he looked left to the middle of the field...holding the safety....then uncorked it to his primary...

Clowney was where he was going all along....the play that's called determines the primary receiver....not where the QB's eye's go first....Sanchez never looked at Clowney until he was ready to throw....
 
if you say so

so what do you call it when a QB looks at the primary sees him covered then goes to his secondary option?
 
DKphin said:
Henne has got to look off his primary receivers. He is going to absolutely killed in the regular season if he can not do this simple requirement of any QB. He might be able to get away with this in the Preseason against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but it won't cut it in a regular season. I am really worried about our "QB of the future". You think he would have learned this by now.:rolleyes2:
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Your Right he stares down the reciever... Any quality safety will jump on the route... He needs to learn to pump fake and the basics ur right but besides that he did ok he needs more snaps...
 
If he looks at his first receiver WITH the intention to throw it to him...but goes to his 2nd progression and throws it....then he's going through progressions...

The play that's called determines the primary....

In this particular case with Sanchez...when he looks at a receiver WITHOUT the intention to throw it to him...but rather to hold the safety in order to go to his primary....then he's manipulating the safety....he already knows where he's going with the football....but he's not going to look there until he's ready to throw it...

As long as he sees the safety on that side of the field come up....he knows he's got 1-on-1 with his primary....
 
and so how do you determine if a QB is going through progressions or looking off a safety when you're watching a game?
 
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