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Chris Long at #1 done deal for Dolphins

First and foremost, allow me to go on record by stating strictly based on talent level, Jake long, Chris Long, and Glenn Dorsey are equal in value, and the ideal situation for the Dolphins would be to trade down and acquire more picks. However, that is highly unlikely considering there is no elite, clear cut above the rest talent in this draft that a team would fall in love with (ideally a sure fire franchise quarterback like Eli Manning in 2004) and be willing to mortgage a future 1st round pick for.

Remember the 2004 NFL draft? The Giants gave up their first round pick, a future first rounder, a third, and a fifth just to move up 3 slots in the draft to number 1 overall. Coupled with the guaranteed 30 million dollar investment that a team would have to make in the player selected, the chances of someone trading with us is slim to none, and chances are the dolphins will be selecting the top player in the 2008 draft.

With that said, here are several reasons why Chris Long will be the #1 overall choice by the Miami Dolphins.

1. Defensive Philosophy - If we weren't already, this team's base defense is a 3-4 scheme with Bill Parcells now on board, and GM Bill Ireland will draft accordingly. If you look at the recent first round draft picks these two choose while with the Cowboys (Terrence Newman, Demarcus Ware, Bobby Carpenter), the common theme was defensive player capable playing in a 3-4 scheme. At 6'4, 284 lbs, and capable of running a 4.79, Chris Long is a perfect fit in this scheme. His versatility allows him to rush as DE or OLB effectively at various spots on the field. Think Jason Taylor 2.0, except for a much better run stopper.

This is also why Glenn Dorsey wouldn't be an ideal choice. Although Dorsey is a dominating player, he simply wouldn't excel in this scheme and is suited to play in a 4-3. His strengths are to rush the passer and make plays in the backfield, not to occupy blockers and allow linebackers to make the plays. He wouldn't be a premiere playmaker in the 3-4, thus his selection as the number 1 pick wouldn't be cost effective.

2. Familiarity - This really cant be understated. The main reason why Ireland and Sparano are the GM and coach of the Dolphins is because of their familiarity and ties with Parcells. He wants people in this organization he knows and trust. The obvious connection is that Chris Long's coach, Al Groh, was an assistant to Parcells while he was with the Giants, Patriots, and Jets. I'm sure Parcells will strongly consider Groh's thoughts on Chris. By the way, Al Groh has gone on record stating that Chris Long is the best player in College Football.

3. He's a Bill Parcells type player - Parcells has stressed the importance of size and run stuffing ability in his players. Also essential is a tremendous work ethic, relentless motor, and really being immersed in the game of football. Long fits these bills on all accounts and could have the immediate impact this 3-4 Dolphins defense needs.

Considering all this, Chris Long looks like the best bet for the player Bill Parcells would want to select to be the cornerstone of this franchise for the next decade. And you know what, I couldn't be happier. Watching him on film, he looks like a player that cant fail. He always plays hard and never takes a play off. He has a vast array of pass rush moves that Im sure he got from his Hall of Fame father. If there was one word i could use to describe him, its disruptive. Even when he dosen't sack the QB he finds a way to get pressure or bat the ball down. He's someone we all as dolfans would be proud to watch for years.

What do you guys think about Chris Long in a Miami Dolphin uniform?










 
Nice in depth post, it's tough to argue with any of it. I think he will be selected but their is still possibility of Glenn Dorsey, Matt Ryan or trading down.
 
I don't necessarily disagree. However, there is still a lot of time until the draft and a number of things could change. There are usually a couple of players that shoot up the draft board. All the phins need is one team to desire such a player to complete a trade down. Also, keep in mind, that the year Eli came out, many teams had Eli, Rivers and Ben R. rated equally. The Giants, however, were one of those teams to fall in love with Eli and make a deal up. Perhaps McFadden draws such interest or maybe Ryan. At this point it is too early to call.
 
I wouldn't mind Chris Long, I just don't think he's got the speed to play 3-4 OLB. Look at some of the 3-4 teams; is he as fast as Merriman or Phillips in SD? Hagans and Harrison in Pittsburgh? Thomas, Colvin, Vrabel in NE? Of those, Vrabel might be the only one he's got beat, and I think you can get a 3-4 DE later on (Kendall Langford, Kentwan Balmer). Depending on Long's speed/workouts, etc...I think it comes down to him, Gholston, and Jake Long. I think either way we'll end up w/a great player, I just think there are some who are better suited for the 3-4 OLB spot.
 
Nice post eckonice but it's too early to declare done deals. If McFad runs a sub 4.3 at the combine crazy Al almost certainly will trade up. I follow the thinking that game performance is more important than what players test, but there's always that small group of franchises who fall in love with numbers during the combine.
 
I live in Jacksonville and was at the Gator Bowl where Virginia played Texas Tech. It seemed that Chris Long was in the backfield disrupting the play on almost every play. I knew he was good, but to see what he did against the biggest O-Line in college football was impressive. I would be pleased to have the Dolphins select Chris Long.
 
I think either jerry jones or al davis will throw the farm to get to the #1 spot and draft Dmac. dallas would give up almost all of their draft picks of this year. jerry jones knows Dmac will be instantly a top 3 rb in the league and the posibility of teaming him up with romo, TO, witten and that mammouth line would be too tempting to pass up. marion barber is not as good as he looks, it's the line that makes him look good. with dmac in dallas, there is no way they would have lost against the giants in the divisional game.

same goes for al davis: jamarcus russell and dmac in consecutive years?? that's your offensive core out there for the next 8-10 years!! al is not afraid to take chances and make the big trade. he knows the dolphins want to make a deal and at the very least he will make a call...and parcells with be right there to answer it.
 
I wouldn't mind Chris Long, I just don't think he's got the speed to play 3-4 OLB. Look at some of the 3-4 teams; is he as fast as Merriman or Phillips in SD? Hagans and Harrison in Pittsburgh? Thomas, Colvin, Vrabel in NE? Of those, Vrabel might be the only one he's got beat, and I think you can get a 3-4 DE later on (Kendall Langford, Kentwan Balmer). Depending on Long's speed/workouts, etc...I think it comes down to him, Gholston, and Jake Long. I think either way we'll end up w/a great player, I just think there are some who are better suited for the 3-4 OLB spot.

Why would he play OLb when he weighs 284 pounds?

Most of them will way 250 to 260 in a 3-4. if we take him it is b/c he is a DE in a 3-4 scheme which Virginia runs.
 
Chris Long at #1 done deal for Dolphins



First and foremost, allow me to go on record by stating strictly based on talent level, Jake long, Chris Long, and Glenn Dorsey are equal in value, and the ideal situation for the Dolphins would be to trade down and acquire more picks. However, that is highly unlikely considering there is no elite, clear cut above the rest talent in this draft that a team would fall in love with (ideally a sure fire franchise quarterback like Eli Manning in 2004) and be willing to mortgage a future 1st round pick for.​

Remember the 2004 NFL draft? The Giants gave up their first round pick, a future first rounder, a third, and a fifth just to move up 3 slots in the draft to number 1 overall. Coupled with the guaranteed 30 million dollar investment that a team would have to make in the player selected, the chances of someone trading with us is slim to none, and chances are the dolphins will be selecting the top player in the 2008 draft.​

With that said, here are several reasons why Chris Long will be the #1 overall choice by the Miami Dolphins.​

1. Defensive Philosophy - If we weren't already, this team's base defense is a 3-4 scheme with Bill Parcells now on board, and GM Bill Ireland will draft accordingly. If you look at the recent first round draft picks these two choose while with the Cowboys (Terrence Newman, Demarcus Ware, Bobby Carpenter), the common theme was defensive player capable playing in a 3-4 scheme. At 6'4, 284 lbs, and capable of running a 4.79, Chris Long is a perfect fit in this scheme. His versatility allows him to rush as DE or OLB effectively at various spots on the field. Think Jason Taylor 2.0, except for a much better run stopper.​

This is also why Glenn Dorsey wouldn't be an ideal choice. Although Dorsey is a dominating player, he simply wouldn't excel in this scheme and is suited to play in a 4-3. His strengths are to rush the passer and make plays in the backfield, not to occupy blockers and allow linebackers to make the plays. He wouldn't be a premiere playmaker in the 3-4, thus his selection as the number 1 pick wouldn't be cost effective.​

2. Familiarity - This really cant be understated. The main reason why Ireland and Sparano are the GM and coach of the Dolphins is because of their familiarity and ties with Parcells. He wants people in this organization he knows and trust. The obvious connection is that Chris Long's coach, Al Groh, was an assistant to Parcells while he was with the Giants, Patriots, and Jets. I'm sure Parcells will strongly consider Groh's thoughts on Chris. By the way, Al Groh has gone on record stating that Chris Long is the best player in College Football.​

3. He's a Bill Parcells type player - Parcells has stressed the importance of size and run stuffing ability in his players. Also essential is a tremendous work ethic, relentless motor, and really being immersed in the game of football. Long fits these bills on all accounts and could have the immediate impact this 3-4 Dolphins defense needs.​

Considering all this, Chris Long looks like the best bet for the player Bill Parcells would want to select to be the cornerstone of this franchise for the next decade. And you know what, I couldn't be happier. Watching him on film, he looks like a player that cant fail. He always plays hard and never takes a play off. He has a vast array of pass rush moves that Im sure he got from his Hall of Fame father. If there was one word i could use to describe him, its disruptive. Even when he dosen't sack the QB he finds a way to get pressure or bat the ball down. He's someone we all as dolfans would be proud to watch for years.​

What do you guys think about Chris Long in a Miami Dolphin uniform?​

not a shot. rumors, reports, and arrows are pointing directly at drafting Matt Ryan with our #1 pick. Also, some possibility of drafting Jake Long as well so that we can move Carey to RT and have LT secured for years to come.

We have two starting DEs in Holiday and Rod Wright with Roth the rotating backup. If we want to add a second backup DE, we can do that with either a 4th rounder or via FA. Not to mention Jason Taylor and Quentin Moses can also sub at DE.
 
The familiarity aspect of your post is a very thin justification. Any top pick should be evaluated on talent not on familiarity (unlike Cameron did about Ted Ginn Jr.)

I'm with you on the fact that Long is more likely for a 3-4 defense than Dorsey, but i think we are lacking of a 3-4 NT and Dorsey may fit there. May worries are about his injuries, but with today's medical advances there's no doubt he'll become an outstanding NFL player.

In conclusion I would argue on some facts for drafting Chris Long:
A) He looks a fit as 3-4 DE, with flexible skills for run defense, worth of the #1 spot.
B) Dorsey has been injury-prone, mostly because of illegal plays against him, but injuries at the end.
C) Chris Long as DE means we will use one of our 2nd round picks in best available bulky DT who would fit in as NT. In a draft very deep of defensive tackles, that sounds more than fine.
D) Even his agent will try to add as much money as he could, Glenn Dorsey seems to be more worried about the big money than Chris Long, so his contract may be lower, with the same level of quality.
 
Chris Long at #1 done deal for Dolphins




What do you guys think about Chris Long in a Miami Dolphin uniform?​

I really think he would be the perfect guy for us. I have seen a few Virginia games and he can do so many different things....rush the passer, knock down passes, move inside and blow people up,,,drop back and play LB if needed. I think he will be just as good as his dad, and we could pencil him in for many years. :up:
 
The familiarity aspect of your post is a very thin justification. Any top pick should be evaluated on talent not on familiarity (unlike Cameron did about Ted Ginn Jr.)

I beg to differ, and so does history. I agree that the most talented player should be selected, but you cant deny that familiarity plays a signifigant role when drafting first round picks, especially with the Dolphins recently.

  • Ronnie Brown was drafted because Nick Saban played against him in the SEC for 4 years
  • Jason Allen was drafted because he also played in the SEC against Nick Saban, along with the fact that Saban recruited him out of high school and visited his family.
  • We all know why Ted Ginn was chosen as you pointed out.
  • Bill Parcell's chose Bobby Carpenter a few years back in the first round, partly because his father Rob Carpenter was a fullback with the Giants while Parcells was there.
 
Very solid post eckonice and I really hope you are correct, however, nothing is a guarantee as of yet.
 
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