Our Quarterback Situation for 09

[DirkDiggler]

Ok I get why Sporano named Chad the starter for next year. He sure deserved it. But here is my question. I'm sure Henne looks at the Rookie qb's this year and thinks he can play as good as them if not better. So If we want to get a more deep,fast paced offense like they have in N.E, or AZ or Philly to name a few, will Pennington be able to deliver? Do you think Henne will get real look this off season even though they named Pennington the 09 starter?

 

[Fin #10]

Just what we need, another Penny vs. Henne thread. This is going to be a long offseason.

 

[BSQ]

Let's just give the ball to Beck and see what the kids got! Not!

 

[RoninFin4]

Ok I get why Sporano named Chad the starter for next year. He sure deserved it. But here is my question. I'm sure Henne looks at the Rookie qb's this year and thinks he can play as good as them if not better. So If we want to get a more deep,fast paced offense like they have in N.E, or AZ or Philly to name a few, will Pennington be able to deliver? Do you think Henne will get real look this off season even though they named Pennington the 09 starter?

I'd imagine as long as we win games Pennington will remain the starter. I think he'd be a lot more effective with a real running threat, which we didn't posses all year save the first New England game and the San Diego game. Pennington was the perfect QB that could make due with what we had: a bunch of young WRs with little to no experience which was magnified by the fact the 1 vet they signed did nothing; an offensive line that was damaged on the interior from week 2 on, etc.

If Pennington starts to struggle and starts costing us games, which I don't think he did at any point during the season, then by all means give Henne a looksee, but there's no point in taking it away from Pennington.

 

[MexDolfan]

Do you think Sparano is pleased with Chad's four ints or the big total of five turnovers at Baltimore? NO WAY!

Tony Sparano is a very smart guy, and I think he did right on giving Chad Pennington a confidence signal mostly after his worst game of the season at the very first playoff of this regime.

But perhaps coach Sparano is teaching by sample, by showing us the kind of entrust that everybody should be showing on our team.

Just remember most of those ints were caused because of a mix of three huge facts:
A) Chad is lacking of high caliber WRs.
B) There was no running attack to support the offense (total: 52 rushing yards).
C) Our O-line was breaking just from the center, giving less that 4 seconds to throw and there's no RB able to run that way.

So with that in mind Sparano is focused on fixing those areas while leaving the passer selection on the hands of both his offensive coordinator and QB coach, that means we can expect both Chads figthing for the starting role.

In fact Henne is proving his lack of experience by overreacting and answering such a very silly attempt to create wrong situations inside the roster.

 

[MD]

In fact Henne is proving his lack of experience by overreacting and answering such a very silly attempt to create wrong situations inside the roster.

Not sure what you mean by this.

 

[luduporcu]

Ok I get why Sporano named Chad the starter for next year. He sure deserved it. But here is my question. I'm sure Henne looks at the Rookie qb's this year and thinks he can play as good as them if not better. So If we want to get a more deep,fast paced offense like they have in N.E, or AZ or Philly to name a few, will Pennington be able to deliver? Do you think Henne will get real look this off season even though they named Pennington the 09 starter?

No.

 

[Benzhiyi]

Do you think Sparano is pleased with Chad's four ints or the big total of five turnovers at Baltimore? NO WAY!

Tony Sparano is a very smart guy, and I think he did right on giving Chad Pennington a confidence signal mostly after his worst game of the season at the very first playoff of this regime.

But perhaps coach Sparano is teaching by sample, by showing us the kind of entrust that everybody should be showing on our team.

Just remember most of those ints were caused because of a mix of three huge facts:
A) Chad is lacking of high caliber WRs.
B) There was no running attack to support the offense (total: 52 rushing yards).
C) Our O-line was breaking just from the center, giving less that 4 seconds to throw and there's no RB able to run that way.

Point C doesn't just affect the running game. It's probably the main reason Chad threw those picks - because he was under constant pressure all day long.

 

[LibertineOneThree]

Ok I get why Sporano named Chad the starter for next year. He sure deserved it. But here is my question. I'm sure Henne looks at the Rookie qb's this year and thinks he can play as good as them if not better. So If we want to get a more deep,fast paced offense like they have in N.E, or AZ or Philly to name a few, will Pennington be able to deliver? Do you think Henne will get real look this off season even though they named Pennington the 09 starter?

Our receivers are Ted Ginn Jnr, Greg Camarillo and Davone Bess.

We don't have a Larry Fitzgerald or Randy Moss. With a the young, learning curve WR corps we have, Penny is perfect anyway. He can go deep when Ginn or Martin are open and he's damn accurate for Greg, Fasano and Davone short and mid.

 

[Vaark]

As our OL grew more porous against The Ravens, CP's decision-making and play became more questionable. Despite the loss of Smiley and having to improvise once Thomas went down, the OL held up pretty well during the year allowing Chad, despite his arm shortcomings to put up some pretty good numbers. What's the point? Bracket this against his shaky season last year with an undependable Jest OLine; ditto for his mediocre Jest playoff history and it's easy to understand that his strengths cannot compensate for fundamental weaknesses in an offense he must depend on. That's why he's a game manager rather than a game breaker -which is fine so long as he has time in the pocket to do what he does best. As such we will be fine with CP, so long as we continue to focus on bolstering our OL.

 

[Spiff]

I don't think a "fast paced offense" is what Sparano has in mind.
The thing is: our defense seemed so good because they weren't on the field that much. We won the time-of-possession nearly every game and it showed. As long as your offense is on the field and doesn't turn the ball over, they cannot score against you.

That's why I believe we will further build our two lines (O and D) through the draft and don't make many "sexy picks". Next season, with Pennington under center, we will see an improved run game due to an improved run blocking. Coupled with an also improved pass blocking, this will lead to an even better offense.

We might not score that many points but we'll score more than the other teams and that's what counts. Physical, dominating smash-mouth football and not turning the ball over. Pennington is the ideal QB for this and he will shine even more next season if not for a severe injury.

That's just my two cents.

 

[PhinsPhan122]

We should bring back Quincy Carter and give him a chance. He could add a whole new dimension to our passing game and the wildcat.

 

[3rdandinches]

Just remember most of those ints were caused because of a mix of three huge facts:
A) Chad is lacking of high caliber WRs.
B) There was no running attack to support the offense (total: 52 rushing yards).
C) Our O-line was breaking just from the center, giving less that 4 seconds to throw and there's no RB able to run that way.

A) Our WR's had nothing to do with the INT's.

Throwing ducks into double coverage and constantly throwing the mid level deep ball was the problem. When there's no time to make reads the QB is forced to show his intent early and that makes it easier for Reed to react thus creating multiple turnovers. Balt blitzes LB's to create pressure which means you either keep your TE's and RB's in to help or you throw quick dump offs to them to neutralize the blitz. We did the opposite having our TE's in routes and trying to throw deeper balls that you need time to complete. Fasano was open alot when there was no one to cover him for the first 5 yards or so. I will never understand why we got out of our base offense of quick plays to the TE's and RB's, we dumped the ball to Cobb's in that first drive for good chunks of yardage and then went away from it after.

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C) The pressure came from every where, blaming the Center is ridiculous.

I realize Satele's play has been less then stellar but Guards and Carey are as much to blame as Satele is.

Pennington is responsible for his actions and for all the great things he did all year to get us to this point. He had a bad game crap happens, it has made the FO well aware of the things we need to improve on for next year. So for that it's probably a blessing in disguise.

 

[GoonBoss]

Well, Sparano said what he needed to say, IMO. You can't throw Pennington (I refuse to call him Penny.) under the bus after the year we had...Nor anyone else for that matter. Pennington has a history of shoulder injuries (Don't get mad, you know it's true) and those things can dog a QB as he ages. Fiedler had *just* enough arm strength to make about 75% of NFL throws (arbitrary estimation). As a result, when 100%, he was more or less servicable from an arm strength standpoint. I think Chad is in that same boat. *this* much falloff in armstrength could spell his end in the NFL, as he has prescious little to lose in the first place.

The reason I intro with that is that next year is still a ways off. Lots can happen in and before TC. If, and, I say *IF* Sparano sees that Henne, in his opinion is the best chance to win, I think he will have no issue starting him. Will that happen? Maybe yes, maybe no. Noone can say with any certainty. If next season was to start now, though, CP would be the starter, no question in my mind.

I think the race next year will be more open than people are willing to think.

 

[GoonBoss]

We should bring back Quincy Carter and give him a chance. He could add a whole new dimension to our passing game and the wildcat.

I'll go see if I can catch him. I bought him a sandwich for washing my car window the other night. It made my window dirtier, but, you know...At least he's working to earn his crack money. I didn't want him to use it for drugs is why I bought him the sandwich.