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Pass block grade in true pass sets alone

That doesn't seem to add up, considering Conner Williams is 5th rated PFF center, Hunt is 9th rated, And Terron is 13th rated at their positions, how do we score the lowest across the board?

I get it it's only pass blocking sets, but we mainly pass block on offense. Also I get we've had some atrocious Tackle play, but Terron played more than he hasn't, and Shell had some decent games at RT.

This looks bogus to me, especially seeing several games this year with an actual pocket, there's no way we have that bad of a line. It needs work and it needs better depth, but it ain't worst in the league bad, I'd say closer to 23-25 in league.
 
That doesn't seem to add up, considering Conner Williams is 5th rated PFF center, Hunt is 9th rated, And Terron is 13th rated at their positions, how do we score the lowest across the board?

I get it it's only pass blocking sets, but we mainly pass block on offense. Also I get we've had some atrocious Tackle play, but Terron played more than he hasn't, and Shell had some decent games at RT.

This looks bogus to me, especially seeing several games this year with an actual pocket, there's no way we have that bad of a line. It needs work and it needs better depth, but it ain't worst in the league bad, I'd say closer to 23-25 in league.
I've gotten to hate some of these more drilled down specific stats. You can tell any story you want by some stat somewhere. I like wins and losses. We'll get 4 more wins this season before the playoffs.
 
McD progression is complete bs, I'm kinda getting suspect that he knows what the hell he is doing. I feel bad for Tua, I think he may end up on Ir before week's end. Buff pash rushers have to be drooling. Quick hit Milano is going to eat unfortunately.
 
McD progression is complete bs, I'm kinda getting suspect that he knows what the hell he is doing. I feel bad for Tua, I think he may end up on Ir before week's end. Buff pash rushers have to be drooling. Quick hit Milano is going to eat unfortunately.
After two losses with his QB in for all 4 quarters we're now losing faith in McD? How absolutely ridiculous to say. Let's take a peek here.

Year one head coaches you might have heard of.
Vince Lombardi 7-5
Don Shula 8-6
Bill Belichick 6-10
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Tom Landry 0-11
Bill Walsh 2-14

Right now McD has Shula tied for the most wins of any rookie HC on that list. Want to doubt him harder? Maybe kneejerk a little more and just cleave the leg off.
 
After two losses with his QB in for all 4 quarters we're now losing faith in McD? How absolutely ridiculous to say. Let's take a peek here.

Year one head coaches you might have heard of.
Vince Lombardi 7-5
Don Shula 8-6
Bill Belichick 6-10
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Tom Landry 0-11
Bill Walsh 2-14

Right now McD has Shula tied for the most wins of any rookie HC on that list. Want to doubt him harder? Maybe kneejerk a little more and just cleave the leg off.
I haven't lost complete faith but have a bit, how couldn't you? We were in perfect position to have the lead in the div and our offense couldn't do squat, I mean historic levels of nothing. What did we have like 5 yds in the first half...unacceptable for an alleged offensive great mind. The oline and run game is ****, regression over progress. Seriously, should I be stoked about the O? Oh and I know the history but have seen this movie before which leads me to my sentiment. Kneejerk? really, just stating what the eye test and record is showing man. Maybe your optimism will prevail but I have a feeling we'll fade like always. just not happy with what i'm seeing lately.
 
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After two losses with his QB in for all 4 quarters we're now losing faith in McD? How absolutely ridiculous to say. Let's take a peek here.

Year one head coaches you might have heard of.
Vince Lombardi 7-5
Don Shula 8-6
Bill Belichick 6-10
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Tom Landry 0-11
Bill Walsh 2-14

Right now McD has Shula tied for the most wins of any rookie HC on that list. Want to doubt him harder? Maybe kneejerk a little more and just cleave the leg off.
Took Payton 4 years to get to the Super Bowl after starting out 10-6, 7-9, 8-8.
Good thing they stuck it out with him and didn't listen to the fans...
 
Wouldn't this be a little skewed on the Fins since they don't typically operate on true pass sets? We pretty much always have an RPO or quick screen available.
 
After two losses with his QB in for all 4 quarters we're now losing faith in McD? How absolutely ridiculous to say. Let's take a peek here.

Year one head coaches you might have heard of.
Vince Lombardi 7-5
Don Shula 8-6
Bill Belichick 6-10
Dick Vermeil 4-10
Tom Landry 0-11
Bill Walsh 2-14

Right now McD has Shula tied for the most wins of any rookie HC on that list. Want to doubt him harder? Maybe kneejerk a little more and just cleave the leg off.
Add these all-time greats to the list:
Chuck Knoll 1-13
Joe Gibbs 8-8
Bill Parcells 3-12
Jimmy Johnson 1-15
Mike Ditka 3-6 (Strike season) 8-8 first full season
Mike Holmgren 9-7
Mike Shanahan 7-9
Andy Reid 5-11
Tom Coughlin 4-12
Tony Dungy 6-10...
They all won a Super Bowl

Patience is a virtue...
 
I've gotten to hate some of these more drilled down specific stats. You can tell any story you want by some stat somewhere. I like wins and losses. We'll get 4 more wins this season before the playoffs.

Agree. Mark Twain declared that there are three types of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.
 
so the more things change, the more they're the same

It is actually improved from last year though. It went from historically shitty for college level, to very shitty for a NFL level.
 


Yes, I know TT has a quick release time, but I'd like to know the play calls. Takes little time for a bubble screen or quick slant. More for the typical 10-15 yd crosser. Herbert was under a lot of pressure. How'd that work out?
Don't know if you have the access, but PFF used to allow stats for specific numbers of games. I'd like to see grades from, say, week 6 to current. It's clear to most in FH pass blocking has improved.
 
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