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I would say that they look very similar to the way the Eagles look offensively -- different than what Miami looked like last year," Belichick said in a conference call Tuesday. "I’d say [Lazor's imprint on the offense is] quite substantial."

Patriots defensive coordinator Matt Patricia said that the preparation for Miami has been two-pronged.

First, New England has focused on evaluating the Dolphins on-the-field personnel, which in large part is very similar to what the Patriots saw last season. Tannehill, Clay and Wallace are still around as are receiver Brian Hartline and running back Lamar Miller. The Miami offensive line has been shaken up, and former Bronco Knowshon Moreno is now in the mix at running back, which provides a bit of a different wrinkle, but it's a group that's largely unchanged since 2013.

Then comes the assessment of the offensive system.

"You're going to take a look at what Bill Lazor has done with the new system as the new offensive coordinator and what they’ve run here in preseason and go back and try to trace that a little bit, the history and background of the offense," Patricia said, "and try to figure out how it’s going to apply. Certainly, obviously what I think they’ve done a great job of this year through the preseason is the quarterback position, with Ryan Tannehill being able to control and run the offense and do a good job with the different looks and the different problems that they set up with this type of offense, and really trying to do a great job of being a good decision maker as a quarterback and get the ball distributed to a lot of their skill players."
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Tannehill, meanwhile, was once a wideout at Texas A&M and has burned the Patriots with his legs in the past. In an offense that provides its quarterback multiple reads and avenues to gash a defense on a play-to-play bases, Tannehill's wheels give the Patriots defense two more things about which to worry.

"He’s a dangerous scrambling quarterback if the receivers are covered and the pass rush doesn’t have him contained," Belichick said. "We’re very aware of him. He has excellent speed. He can run away from most defensive linemen and linebackers so keeping leverage and containing him is going to be a big part of us being successful against the Dolphins. We’re going to have to do a good job with that. I’m sure if he has a chance to keep it, he’ll keep it. If we take that away, then he’ll do something else. You have to defend everything in option football."
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The Patriots have had the benefit of working against the Eagles in each of the last two training camps in joint practices and preseason games. Though whatever Kelly showed in those weeks was likely a vanilla version of his regular-season offense, the pace with which Kelly's offense practiced could help the Patriots be more ready for Lazor's in Miami.

After that, Patriots coaches will have to rely on all the work they did this preseason to try to prepare themselves for how a new coordinator's schemes will fit well-known Dolphins personnel.

It's all a fair amount of work, to be sure. But not unmanageable. Especially with four months to get ready.

"That’s the type of thing you do in the offseason when you have a little bit of extra time," Belichick said. "You see the schedule, you see who your opening games are with. That’s a good time to study things like that."
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http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/patriots-prep-eagles-style-offense-miami
 
It's no coincidence that the Patriots practiced specifically against the Eagles and that type of offense. I doubt they see anything from the Dolphins that the Eagles haven't already shown them.

It all comes down to execution at this point.
 
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I'm not expecting the Phins to surprise NE at all. I think the Pats will be ready for every wrinkle and will stymie every wrinkle. Meanwhile the weak links on D will be repeatedly exposed.

I'm not seeing a Phins win unless we get a few random big plays or turnovers. Otherwise this will be a methodical trouncing. Hope I'm wrong.
 
ANUFan said:
It's no coincidence that the Patriots practice specifically against the Eagles and that type of offense. I doubt they see anything from the Dolphins that the Eagles haven't already shown them.

It all comes down to execution at this point.
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As a FYI, it has little to do with the Dolphins as NE practiced with the Eagles last year as well. It is more about BB liking what Kelly does as a coach, the speed of the practices, the fact that the teams don't play each other this year, and the proximity of Philly to Foxboro.

Any similarity to what the Phins are going to do this year is a bonus.

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I'm predicting a Fins loss only because this is the first go-round and the units and schemes still need to jell.
I think despite a loss, the coaches, mainly Lazor, will get a good look at what to improve upon and should fine-tune the strengths of the schemes and play-calling so that the offense just naturally plays quicker.
Tannehill getting the ball out sooner, improving the footwork as he has been, and working on different types of throws with the very diverse cast of receiving/running/blocking options he now has will get this team in playoff contention later in the season.
On D I hope they start seeing where the newly-infused physical play starts to help with blitzing and coverage.

It may not be a win, but I think we should see a very important first step in this team getting better.
 
I think our offense will have the same philosophy as the Eagles' offense - high tempo, spread the ball around, go deep on 1st down, ect - but I think our play design and formations will be very different. I don't think you could study the Eagle's offense and get a feel for our offense. Sorry Bill.
 
I'm hoping a change in coordinator alone will make a big difference. None of that stuff from last year. Better play-calling, finding a weakness and not letting up, etc., should help a lot.
 
the eagles dont have as athletic a qb as miami nor as good of a thrower on the move one...i hope we put it to use cause that will be a wrinkle they couldn't prepare for off the eagles although i'm sure they will preach gap and lane responsibility

the pats d always looks like one of the best coached units in football to me...very assignment sound...i doubt you are gonna see edge players just crashing down to the inside for easy 2nd level running opportunities on the qb keep

too disciplined a bunch...work more play action off the read option in the middle of the field and inside zone run game as the pa keeps the lbs honest
 
Zounds said:
I think our offense will have the same philosophy as the Eagles' offense - high tempo, spread the ball around, go deep on 1st down, ect - but I think our play design and formations will be very different. I don't think you could study the Eagle's offense and get a feel for our offense. Sorry Bill.
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Based on what?? Lazor got most of his unique play concepts from Chip. As for the speed of the plays I can tell you right now it won't be very fast. Certainly not any faster than what the pats defense sees every day from the pats offense. If you watched some of the fast offenses in the preseason Philly was getting the ball off in 13 seconds. That is from the time the play is blown dead until the next play is snapped. The dolphins were just a little faster than average at 21 seconds. The pats have been in the top 5 in that stat for the last several years. It is not something that will surprise them.
The concepts Chips uses to make his running game work will be very close to what we see here in Miami, and playing the eagles for a week will certainly help in that reguard.
Go watch the Oregen guide on Chip's system on youtube, and you will see how he forces teams to play the entire field vs his running game, and a team that isn't extremely disciplined will get gashed when they start guessing on where the play is going. The pats are very good tacklers and will be very disciplined after getting to see what it is like to practice against that team for a week. They will shut down our running game, but I expect us to go on to have one of the best running games we have had in several years. It just won't start until after week one.
 
Let's remember though.........teams saw it all last season but they still continued to have success. Just because they see the same type of offense does not mean they know what's coming next. Too much credit is being given to "seeing the same type of offense". Everybody knows what is coming from the Pats every year for the past 3 years but it still works. Execution and mixing it up is what counts.
 
There are so many things we can do from the QB keep look that the Pats can't prepare for. That's the wrinkle we have that the Eagles don't. Tannehill can easily give a keep look and throw out of it...he did it in the preseason when the threw a quick out to Matthews and gained 8 yards. If he pitches it to Lamar Miller and Miller is out in space...IF Miller can make the first guy miss (something he really needed to work on) it will be a big gain.

There were opportunities to take advantage of the teams strengths on offense last year but Sherman never seemed to do it. Let's hope Lazor isn't as dense as Sherman.
 
oasis said:
I'm not expecting the Phins to surprise NE at all. I think the Pats will be ready for every wrinkle and will stymie every wrinkle. Meanwhile the weak links on D will be repeatedly exposed.

I'm not seeing a Phins win unless we get a few random big plays or turnovers. Otherwise this will be a methodical trouncing. Hope I'm wrong.
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Cause they trounced us last year, right?
 
Sorry Ferllas but NOBODY knows what exactly we are going to see come Sunday except the Dolphins. We can assume a lot of things it will look like Philly. Really why becasue Lazor and chip worked together for 1 year? It will be multiple formations? Why becasue lazor has a long history of other concepts and schemes before running into Chip? it will be fast pace? maybe that is so, there has been a lot of hints that it will. IDK what to expect. preseason didn't give you much indication of what to expect either. Let's just wiat and see.
 
I think Ryan Tannehill's legs can be the x-factor in this game. I absolutely believe that if he can pick up a few first downs with his legs it will completely change the dynamic between the Dolphins offense and Patriots defense.
 
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