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Patriots fan dies after altercation at Gillette Stadium

lurking said:
If you read the article you would’ve seen that the guy that got punched was the aggressor.
So explain to us why the guy who punched the guy should be banned from every NFL stadium.
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I saw the article very, very early after it came out. I do not see anywhere in the article that says Mooney started the altercation. It's sad he's dead (especially for his family). If he was still alive, he should receive a harsher punishment than the Dolphins fan. If it was truly self-defense, I understand where the Fins fan is coming from (it doesn't make it right, but I understand it). The article reads as though the harassment was one way (Dolphins fans towards Mooney). I am a STAUNCH defender of people's rights when it comes to self-defense and I will defend that forever (siding with the person practicing self-defense). "...getting into a physical altercation..." doesn't clearly state that Mooney was the aggressor.

There is no place for fighting at these events.
 
Dolphins3 said:
I saw the article very, very early after it came out. I do not see anywhere in the article that says Mooney started the altercation. It's sad he's dead (especially for his family). If he was still alive, he should receive a harsher punishment than the Dolphins fan. If it was truly self-defense, I understand where the Fins fan is coming from (it doesn't make it right, but I understand it). The article reads as though the harassment was one way (Dolphins fans towards Mooney). I am a STAUNCH defender of people's rights when it comes to self-defense and I will defend that forever (siding with the person practicing self-defense). "...getting into a physical altercation..." doesn't clearly state that Mooney was the aggressor.

There is no place for fighting at these events.
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I agree there’s no place for fighting at sports events, but here’s part of the article saying how aggressive he was.

“Kilmartin told the news outlet that Mooney also had gotten into a physical confrontation with other fans toward the end of the fourth quarter.”

He wasn’t a peaceloving sports fan.
 
Dolphins3 said:
I saw the article very, very early after it came out. I do not see anywhere in the article that says Mooney started the altercation. It's sad he's dead (especially for his family). If he was still alive, he should receive a harsher punishment than the Dolphins fan. If it was truly self-defense, I understand where the Fins fan is coming from (it doesn't make it right, but I understand it). The article reads as though the harassment was one way (Dolphins fans towards Mooney). I am a STAUNCH defender of people's rights when it comes to self-defense and I will defend that forever (siding with the person practicing self-defense). "...getting into a physical altercation..." doesn't clearly state that Mooney was the aggressor.

There is no place for fighting at these events.
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Article says it was Mooney who went to the section where the Dolphins fans were, started arguing with them, then I believe grabbed one of them, then became violent.
 
tay0365 said:
Article says it was Mooney who went to the section where the Dolphins fans were, started arguing with them, then I believe grabbed one of them, then became violent.
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Please show me where it says that. I've read the article a few times. It says he was seen in an alteraction with Dolphins fans. It doesn't say he started it. News outlets tend to side with who they want to be perceived as victims--in this case the deceased party. So, it's not a stretch to assume they deliberately did not state Mooney was the aggressor. I'm sure as heck not defending Mooney.
 
Dolphins3 said:
Please show me where it says that. I've read the article a few times. It says he was seen in an alteraction with Dolphins fans. It doesn't say he started it. News outlets tend to side with who they want to be perceived as victims--in this case the deceased party. So, it's not a stretch to assume they deliberately did not state Mooney was the aggressor. I'm sure as heck not defending Mooney.
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Here is where it says it (After the Picture of him and his wife)....

[He provided a video of the incident to WCVB, which published images from the clip showing Mooney getting his shirt pulled.

->The footage shows Mooney approaching the other fans on the 300 level of the stadium.

"He basically grabbed another fan,” Kilmartin told WCVB.<-

They started tussling around for a few minutes. At one point, another fan walked over. He punched him … and the man just went out. It was pretty hard to watch.”]
 
The Dolphins fan punching him was wrong, but if Mooney had not walked over to the other fans, and had grabbed the shirt of one of the Dolphin fan, all this horrible aftermath that ended with his death, never would have happened.
 
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