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NICK SABAN IS NOT A SOCIAL WORKER. From John Chidley-Hill, of Toronto: "How crazy is Nick Saban for taking on so many perceived problem players? First he offered forgiveness to Ricky Williams, then Daunte Culpepper and now Marcus Vick. Does he have a death wish, or is he just confident in his abilities as a disciplinarian?''

The latter. Williams has been a good guy for Saban to coach in the year he's been there. Culpepper, until the last few months in Minnesota, was a model player and a good leader. And Vick -- what's the risk, really? I'm sure the Dolphins paid him next to nothing, maybe $5,000 to sign (if that), and they don't have to pay him anything in salary until he makes the team. Why not take a four-month look at a kid who, if he'd kept his nose clean, would have been a first-round NFL pick? Saban will keep him on a one-strike-and-you're-out leash, and maybe he'll be rewarded for it. The thing is, what has he lost if Vick fails? To me, nothing.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/05/23/mailbag/1.html

Peter King actually thinks along the lines of what most of us are thinking. I can't believe people actually think Culpepper is a perceived problem player. He's been model his whole life (didn't anyone watch that special on him and his adoptive mother?), got acquitted from anything on the boat scandal (and even if he was convicted, touching a booty isn't that bad, illegal in some states, but not bad, god forbid the NFL if they ever place a team in Vegas). The only thing I can see that would be problematic would be his relationship with the Vikings at the end of last year. But it never happened before, and he's been a model team person so far, so I chalk that up to, "get me the hell out of dodge/minny."
 
Unfortunately, Peter King shows his ignorance by saying Vick would have been a first round pick had he kept his nose clean. At least, he could not have possibly been a first round pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. Maybe if he'd had to stay another year he would have walked into 2006 college season in around the same position as Troy Smith...hard to tell. He's not a complete QB. Just by his passing ability alone you're not going to see a first rounder. On top of that he's short, and his mobility is nothing like his brother's.
 
ckparrothead said:
Unfortunately, Peter King shows his ignorance by saying Vick would have been a first round pick had he kept his nose clean. At least, he could not have possibly been a first round pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. Maybe if he'd had to stay another year he would have walked into 2006 college season in around the same position as Troy Smith...hard to tell. He's not a complete QB. Just by his passing ability alone you're not going to see a first rounder. On top of that he's short, and his mobility is nothing like his brother's.
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Vick.....no way a 1st rounder......agreed
 
ckparrothead said:
Unfortunately, Peter King shows his ignorance by saying Vick would have been a first round pick had he kept his nose clean. At least, he could not have possibly been a first round pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. Maybe if he'd had to stay another year he would have walked into 2006 college season in around the same position as Troy Smith...hard to tell. He's not a complete QB. Just by his passing ability alone you're not going to see a first rounder. On top of that he's short, and his mobility is nothing like his brother's.
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:yeahthat:
 
The first time Vick farts in a meeting, he's gone. He's got no room for any kind of screw-up. As for Daunte, the guy maybe got a lap dance and maybe he slapped some skank on her rear -end after maybe getting a lap dance. For many NFL players this is merely an average Tuesday night out with the fellas. I believe the tongue lashing he took from his chick will curb any notions of repeating that behavior, or, at the very least he'll think twice about going for any cruises on Biscayne Bay with a bunch of hoors in the future. Ricky is just a supremely talented whack-o, not a bad guy or problem child in the locker room. King's got it right.
 
King always has good things to say about Saban.

Not that I value his opinion on anything except for coffee..:evil:

:dolphins:
 
I think he may just be the king of peters, if you know what I mean.

SI still hasn't answered back about me being getting hired to write for them. I can spel god and everythiing.
 
Vick runs like a 4.6, right? This guy is like a 5th or 6th rounder if he kept his nose clean. Brad Smith has more potential on the field alone.

He's got practice squad written all over him. He has a bit of shiftiness and some toughness. Couple those traits with his slash type abilities, and he may make it as an end of the bench receiver some day, if he ever grows up.
 
Austin Tatious said:
Vick runs like a 4.6, right? This guy is like a 5th or 6th rounder if he kept his nose clean. Brad Smith has more potential on the field alone.

He's got practice squad written all over him. He has a bit of shiftiness and some toughness. Couple those traits with his slash type abilities, and he may make it as an end of the bench receiver some day, if he ever grows up.
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My only point is there's no way Reggie McNeal was a worse player than Marcus Vick...and Reggie was a late 6th rounder. I nearly cried when he got snapped up before we could get him in the 7th.
 
tcdrover said:
King always has good things to say about Saban.

Not that I value his opinion on anything except for coffee..:evil:

:dolphins:
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If even that. His opinion on coffee is limited to his ventures to Starbucks, or what true coffee afficionados call Charbucks (they overroast their beans for consistency, but that destroys flavor profiles of different beans).
 
Sofa_King_Drunk said:
The first time Vick farts in a meeting, he's gone. He's got no room for any kind of screw-up. As for Daunte, the guy maybe got a lap dance and maybe he slapped some skank on her rear -end after maybe getting a lap dance. For many NFL players this is merely an average Tuesday night out with the fellas. I believe the tongue lashing he took from his chick will curb any notions of repeating that behavior, or, at the very least he'll think twice about going for any cruises on Biscayne Bay with a bunch of hoors in the future. Ricky is just a supremely talented whack-o, not a bad guy or problem child in the locker room. King's got it right.
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I totally agree with you about Daunte and the boat scandal. Did anyone see the MTV cribs episode (a guilty pleasure of mine) that showed Clinton Portis's crib? He had a stripper's pole put into his basement with a huge bed with mirrors above it. The funniest part was earlier in the show they showed his mom in her upstairs bedroom. Apparently mom doesn't mind or doesn't know about Clinton's downstairs fun room. This kind of stuff happens all the time with NFL players, I would imagine. Because it happened on a public boat (which wasn't really public at the time), Daunte is made out to be some sexual offender. Give it a rest.
 
ckparrothead said:
My only point is there's no way Reggie McNeal was a worse player than Marcus Vick...and Reggie was a late 6th rounder. I nearly cried when he got snapped up before we could get him in the 7th.
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Yep, I am on the same page with you. No way is Vick a first round pick.

Do you think McNeal will play qb or be moved a la Randle El? That is one thing about Vick; he is not an NFL QB -- but his skills may translate into a receiver. I am not so sure the same is true for McNeal. Agree/disagree?

Where did McNeal end up? Was it Cincy? I am drawing a blank but if I remember right, the Bengals picked up a qb with potential late.
 
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