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Miami — Three Performances of Note
Checking In With the Rookies
Let’s face it, for many people preseason is the first real chance to see their rookies in action and may be the only reason to tune in to a game before the real action starts. Right tackle Ja’Wuan James played 31 snaps (compared to the rest of the starters who began to fade out of the lineup after 10) and had a mixed day. He was actually perfect in pass protection, keeping a clean sheet from 16 pass-blocking snaps, though a cynic might point to the opposition as a big factor in that. His run blocking grade of -1.8 wasn’t great and left him with an overall mark of -0.7.
Second-rounder Jarvis Landry was only targeted twice, catching one pass – a quick screen – and getting dropped immediately for a loss, but did look dangerous as a return man.

Second Team D Upstages the 1′s
It wasn’t a great day for the Miami starters on defense with only really Randy Starks (typically) showing well and even he could only flash rather than dominate in his limited snaps. By contrast, the second team had several very positive performances with Jason Trusnik (+2.4), Jordan Tripp (+2.4), Will Davis (+3.1) and Terrence Fede (+4.1), in particular, impressing. Fede, a seventh-round rookie, graded well against both the run and the pass and though he couldn’t get the quarterback to the ground, he notched four hurries, more than anybody else on the team. The performance of these guys with the second unit was a large reason the Falcons could only manage 2.6 yards per carry on offense and suffered several plays that were blown up for big losses.

Backup QB
With Ryan Tannehill sitting after 10 snaps we got to see an extended performance from Seth Lobato as Matt Moore and Pat Devlin sat out the game. It wasn’t a great performance from the undrafted rookie who threw for 124 yards on his 14 completions. There were some bright spots, and he did have the team driving in the shadow of the Falcons’ goal line before dropping a shotgun snap and compounding the error by failing to fall on the ball and recover it. That turnover gave Atlanta the ball back with time winding down and effectively sealed the game. Lobato completed just one pass over 10 yards in the air from eight attempts. The long shot to make the roster may have just seen his odds become even longer.


Seems like they pretty much saw what everyone else did.
 
RT's 6/6 , 1 TD drive performance was nothing of note with all his starting receivers on the bench?
 
RT's 6/6 , 1 TD drive performance was nothing of note with all his starting receivers on the bench?

In all honesty, given plenty time to throw (which he definitely had), and the plays that were called, he should be expected to do that well. Clinical.

The only "iffy" pass to me was the option dump-off on the right side where he slung it side-armed, but given the amount of time he had to get that throw there after seeing his lane get shut-off, I'd say it was pretty good. Looked funky, but got 8 yards out of it (could've been a lot more had the blocker not got pushed back basically right into the receiver).
 
RT's 6/6 , 1 TD drive performance was nothing of note with all his starting receivers on the bench?

It was but from other reports I saw, they went with lessor known guys and rookies who played more.
 
In all honesty, given plenty time to throw (which he definitely had), and the plays that were called, he should be expected to do that well. Clinical.

The only "iffy" pass to me was the option dump-off on the right side where he slung it side-armed, but given the amount of time he had to get that throw there after seeing his lane get shut-off, I'd say it was pretty good. Looked funky, but got 8 yards out of it (could've been a lot more had the blocker not got pushed back basically right into the receiver).

"Funky" is a good description. Reminded me some of playing games as a kid. :)
 
How did Misi and Will Davis grade out ?

I saw some good and bad from both.
 
How did Misi and Will Davis grade out ?

I saw some good and bad from both.

Misi was -0.8 run, -0,9 pass, and +0.9 pass rush. Davis was a VG +3.0 on cover, and +0.1 vs run. LOTS of missed tackles with 12, and 5 from starters, no one with more than 1.

Each of the starting OL got a plus on pass blocking, other than Dallas (-0.5), and each got a minus in run blocking, with Dallas the worst (-2.9),
 
IMO the rookie Anthony Johnson from LSU stood out in one play i seen he blew his guy up and stopped the RB in the backfield . I think he is going to be a very good player for us .
 
keep it up SB and I might have to nominate you for this award

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Misi was -0.8 run, -0,9 pass, and +0.9 pass rush. Davis was a VG +3.0 on cover, and +0.1 vs run. LOTS of missed tackles with 12, and 5 from starters, no one with more than 1.

Each of the starting OL got a plus on pass blocking, other than Dallas (-0.5), and each got a minus in run blocking, with Dallas the worst (-2.9),

All that pretty much jives with the eyeball test too.
 
I did not see our QB on the ground other than that stupid fumble at the end so that's definitely improvement even if it was a meaningless game.
 
Here's an interesting QB comparison from the game to show the difference between PFF and NFL.

Tannehill went 6 for 6 for 63 yards, and a TD. PFF gave him a +1.3 grade, and the NFL gave him a rating of 149.

Ryan went 7 of 7 for 100 yards, and 0 TD's. PFF gave him a +2.2 grade, and the NFL gave hi9m a rating of 98.

PFF goes by what they saw, play by play, and if throws were those most QB's should make or better than that. NFL goes by the stats. With the game fresh in your mind, who gave the better description of the play of the two QB's?
 
I'd go with the NFL grade . Both completed all their passes but Tannehill threw a touchdown so his rating should be higher than Matts.
 
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Here's an interesting QB comparison from the game to show the difference between PFF and NFL.

Tannehill went 6 for 6 for 63 yards, and a TD. PFF gave him a +1.3 grade, and the NFL gave him a rating of 149.

Ryan went 7 of 7 for 100 yards, and 0 TD's. PFF gave him a +2.2 grade, and the NFL gave hi9m a rating of 98.

PFF goes by what they saw, play by play, and if throws were those most QB's should make or better than that. NFL goes by the stats. With the game fresh in your mind, who gave the better description of the play of the two QB's?

PFF judges individual performance. The QB Rating goes by how the whole passing offense does, and TDs get a lot of weight.

Tannehill had a bit easier of a go of it "individually," which is what I think makes up the difference on the PFF ratings.
 
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