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AJ Duhe

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Do these guys even do show prep anymore? Just watched a clip of Mike Florio saying that you don’t fire a coach who had a winning record the last 2 years despite organizational dysfunction. YOU ABSOLUTELY FIRE HIM IF HE WAS THE CAUSE OF THE DYSFUNCTION! I thought Florio was an attorney, you would think he would have better logical awareness.

Then Dumb**** Simms chimes in and says that Flores did his best with the bad players Grier gave him. Sure, you might make an argument that Grier’s offensive line drafts have been bad or that he hasn’t provided the team with quality running backs. But, you could also argue that Flores’ inability to retain offensive coaching talent might have something to do with poor performance. Jackson, Kindley, and Hunt had reasonably promising rookie seasons. Then you pair them with a rookie OL coach, and Jackson and Kindley look lost, and you ruin a promising prospect in Eichenberg.
 
AJ Duhe said:
Do these guys even do show prep anymore? Just watched a clip of Mike Florio saying that you don’t fire a coach who had a winning record the last 2 years despite organizational dysfunction. YOU ABSOLUTELY FIRE HIM IF HE WAS THE CAUSE OF THE DYSFUNCTION! I thought Florio was an attorney, you would think he would have better logical awareness.

Then Dumb**** Simms chimes in and says that Flores did his best with the bad players Grier gave him. Sure, you might make an argument that Grier’s offensive line drafts have been bad or that he hasn’t provided the team with quality running backs. But, you could also argue that Flores’ inability to retain offensive coaching talent might have something to do with poor performance. Jackson, Kindley, and Hunt had reasonably promising rookie seasons. Then you pair them with a rookie OL coach, and Jackson and Kindley look lost, and you ruin a promising prospect in Eichenberg.
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Been reported by Barry Jackson that Grier gave Flo any player he wanted even Tua but Flo failed with his poor decisions on offense.

Floria lives for this type of click bait moaning as if he has a clue what was happening in Miami.
 
andyahs said:
Been reported by Barry Jackson that Grier gave Flo any player he wanted even Tua but Flo failed with his poor decisions on offense.

Floria lives for this type of click bait moaning as if he has a clue what was happening in Miami.
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If i were GM and my job is on the line with my draft picks I would have picked the qb of my choice not Flo's. Hindsight is 20/20 but during that draft I was leaning towards Herbert just for what I seen at the combine and his height and arm strength.
 
rvz1020 said:
If i were GM and my job is on the line with my draft picks I would have picked the qb of my choice not Flo's. Hindsight is 20/20 but during that draft I was leaning towards Herbert just for what I seen at the combine and his height and arm strength.
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Was grier's job on the line? Doubt it.

Grier did not draft in a vaccum. Flo had a lot of input including the decision to draft Tua.
 
That was a pretty bad segment and Simms admitted he is a Dolphin fans hater.

That being said, as others have pointed out, dysfunction has been a hallmark for all of Ross’s regimes. There may be something to that.
 
PFT has been horrible for so long. They never say anything positive about the Dolphins when it's warranted. They are always negative about the Dolphins even when it's not warranted. When it is warranted, half of the stuff they say is made up. I don't understand why anyone who calls themself a Dolphin fan would even bother reading or listening to their content. Whenever I see anybody on here cite PFT, I know immediately it's just somebody wanting to bash the team.
 
andyahs said:
Was grier's job on the line? Doubt it.

Grier did not draft in a vaccum. Flo had a lot of input including the decision to draft Tua.
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A lot of excuses. Before it was Tannebaum and now Flores. When is Grier gonna fall on the sword for the shitty performance of this franchise? Seems like never. Dude can't build an oline to save his life. Can't sign a good free agent RB. Gives horrible extensions to mediocre talent. "Mr. Can-Do-No-Wrong."
 
I used to listen to PFT all the time but since the pandemic it's become atrocious. They were pounding the table 2 years ago that there would not be a single game played in the 2020 season because it was insanely dangerous for the players. Then I listened to a show a few weeks back when a ton of positive tests were coming about and they were pounding the table that these guys that are testing positive but being asymptomatic should be allowed on the field. It's amazing how they just flip flop their views so much. **** them...
 
BennySwella said:
A lot of excuses. Before it was Tannebaum and now Flores. When is Grier gonna fall on the sword for the ****ty performance of this franchise? Seems like never. Dude can't build an oline to save his life. Can't sign a good free agent RB. Gives horrible extensions to mediocre talent. "Mr. Can-Do-No-Wrong."
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Grier should have walked with Flores but please show me anything that indicated Flo had no say in personnel decision.
 
Miami has higher standards than back to back winning records. That back to back winning records stat is a joke. For one, no playoffs in either of those winning seasons so if you're not a playoff team, the season was a failure. Two, it took an extra game to be added to obtain that 2nd winning record, otherwise it would have been yet another 8-8 season with a blowout loss to end the season. Three, the 9th win was basically a glorified preseason game. It did not matter.
 
I can’t stand that show. I really dislike Simms, he is a horrific QB and has no business evaluating anyone
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
Miami has higher standards than back to back winning records. That back to back winning records stat is a joke. For one, no playoffs in either of those winning seasons so if you're not a playoff team, the season was a failure. Two, it took an extra game to be added to obtain that 2nd winning record, otherwise it would have been yet another 8-8 season with a blowout loss to end the season. Three, the 9th win was basically a glorified preseason game. It did not matter.
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And the number of playoff teams was expanded!
 
BennySwella said:
A lot of excuses. Before it was Tannebaum and now Flores. When is Grier gonna fall on the sword for the ****ty performance of this franchise? Seems like never. Dude can't build an oline to save his life. Can't sign a good free agent RB. Gives horrible extensions to mediocre talent. "Mr. Can-Do-No-Wrong."
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Here’s the real problem. No one knows for sure what is Grier’s actual level of authority. I believe, don’t for sure know, that Tannenbaum had final say and was fired because Gase was largely his call, and some of those awful player extensions were his call.

I understand working in collaboration with a head coach, but someone has to be the final call. We traded an All Pro safety (Minkah) because he had a strong opinion regarding his best position, and it turns out he was right. He spoke out, and Flo punished him by having him take on linemen and tight ends at the line of scrimmage during camp. Was Tua Flo’s pick, Ross’ pick, Grier’s pick…we have no idea.

I would rather Grier come out and say my offensive line construction hasn’t been good enough, and me and the scouting staff need more help to hit on acquisitions. I’m hiring coach X as a consultant for this purpose. I would respect that.
 
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