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PFT: Culpepper Having Trouble With His Reads

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I checked the threads on the first two pages and didn't see this anywhere in the headlines, so I don't know if it's been posted yet. From Pro Football Talk's Rumor Mill earlier today, here's the following from league sources:

CULPEPPER HAVING TROUBLE WITH HIS READS

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As league observers try to figure out why Miami quarterback Daunte Culpepper has looked so bad through four games with the Dolphins, one league source tells us that the root of the problem is that Culpepper is having trouble getting through his progression of receivers.

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On all passing plays, quarterbacks go through a step-by-step process of looking for open pass-catchers. So if the primary receiver on a given play isn't open, the quarterback looks for the secondary receiver, then the next guy (we once heard some pointy-headed coach use the term "tertiary" in reference to the third guy in the progression), and then the next guy.

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Before his knee was shredded last October in Charlotte, Culpepper could insert another option into his progression -- pulling the ball down and running.

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Though not gifted with the same speed and moves as Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, Culpepper was fast enough to elude the guys in the front seven and big enough to overpower the defensive backs.

Now with a rebuilt knee that had been blown apart during one of his pull-it-down-and-go routines, Culpepper is forced to look for open receivers -- and as a result he's holding the ball too long.

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The fact that the Dolphins' offensive line can't give him more than a couple of Mississippis before his effort to look for the next guy in the pattern is distracted by an attempt to avoid getting clobbered is likely complicating matters. Regardless, it's not working -- and the next question for Fins coach Nick Saban is how much time Culpepper gets to turn it around before Joey Harrington gets a chance to show that his piss-poor performances in Motown were the product of something other than the fact that he's not very good.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

 
Note that this is an anonymous source's opinion.

I think PFT is usually pretty good, but I have no idea why they even bothered posting this one.
 
I think it is obvious that without his running ability he is having trouble adjusting. I posted an article by Bill Simmons on the shelf life of running QBs and how usually they get injured and then once they can't run as much anymore they are not effective.
 
PhinsPhan said:
I think it is obvious that without his running ability he is having trouble adjusting. I posted an article by Bill Simmons on the shelf life of running QBs and how usually they get injured and then once they can't run as much anymore they are not effective.
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Culpepper isn't a running QB, he's a passing QB. The difference between him and a standard pocket passer is that Culpepper had the physical ability to escape defenders to extend a play. He's starting to get that mobility back.
 
The fact that the Dolphins' offensive line can't give him more than a couple of Mississippis before his effort to look for the next guy in the pattern
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THE FACT IS there isnt an offensive line in nfl history that can
keep guys of of duante long enough at this point.

the guy could NEVER read defenses well and now he cant move
and doesnt have moss and carter to run down the field and
chuck bombs!!

this line is a c+ maybe b with ANY other qb.

and it doenst help our rb has no moves either.
 
Looking at Tailguns avatar and trying to read his post kind of reminded me of Daunte staring down recievers. He wants to check down but just can't seem to get his eyes off his primary target :sidelol:
 
Culpepper absolutely has trouble reading defenses. He always has. And now that he can't move, that is being even more exposed. Unfortunate, but true.
 
SCall13 said:
Culpepper absolutely has trouble reading defenses. He always has. And now that he can't move, that is being even more exposed. Unfortunate, but true.
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On what basis do you say Culpepper has never been able to read defenses? His career performance suggests otherwise.
 
Culpepper is still hurting or he has that injury still in the back of his mind. Most doctors said it would take him a year to get back to the way he played before he had the knee injury. He has made a great comback from his injury and deserves all the credit in the world for his hard work. The thing that bothers me is this... Do you guys who support him, want to waste the season waiting for him to get back to form??? This is what is happening, he is a step slower, which is effecting his reads, why do you think they go to the shot gun a lot in passing situations? It's to give Daunte more time to throw, trouble is...it is telegraphing that fact to the other defense and Daunte is no Dan Marino...I don't care what any of you DC supporters say.
 
We are running two WR sets, the OL can't hold back anyone and people are questioning Daunte's ability to read defenses :rolleyes:

Who is he going to throw to with the 2 seconds he has, the WR who is double teamed or the one that is triple teamed?
 
Desides said:
On what basis do you say Culpepper has never been able to read defenses? His career performance suggests otherwise.
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In Minny he was generally locked on to his primary reciever and when they weren't open he took off running. Now that he cant take off running anymore he really has to learn to read defenses to know whos going to be open or at least know whos coming on the blitz so he can get rid of the ball. This is his biggest struggle, if he can overcome it he will be a good QB once again but if he can't he will never be a pocket passer.
 
I love how all these people lock onto the Randy Moss factor. Lets take a quick look at this. 2004 Season Daunte throws for 4717 yards and 39 TD's. That same season Moss Catches 767 yards and 13 TD's. So somehow Daunte threw almost 4,000 yards of passing to players other than Moss and 26 TD's to players other than him.

I find it hard to believe that a player that "can't read a defense" can throw for almost 5,000 yards.

Why can't he just not be completely healed yet? Why does it have to be some great flaw in him as a QB? Why does every problem have to be the worst possible sinerio?

He's just not 100% yet, plain and simple. So why not pull him right? Because right now he's building timing with his recievers, he's getting to know the coach's, he's knocking the rust off of not playing. There is no need for us to pull Daunte and start right back at square one next season.
 
when you get down and to it the truth is until he starts to feel comfortable again he will not be as good. He is scared and i think it is not physical but more mental
 
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