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With this news coming out about Kevin Vickerson firing his agent, and his agent talking about Vickerson's behavior problems...I remembered that Pro Football Talk said something about this weeks ago.

Here's the latest article from the Sun Sentinel:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...ul19,0,2172339.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front


Originally, I wanted to start this thread to show everybody that yes, Pro Football Talk does have sources, and they don't just make this stuff up as they go along.

But something funny happened when I went searching for the article in ProFootballTalk's rumor mill archive.

It isn't there. Nowhere. Gone. Taken out. I searched this here forum, and found that good ole regular BLITZKRIEG posted a thread about the PFT blurb. You can find it here:

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=84327&highlight=Vickerson

As you can see from the original post, BLITZKRIEG posted this on July 1st, 2005.

Now, go to the Rumor Mill Archive at PFT...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumorarchive.htm

Check out the archive of June 24, 2005 through July 15, 2005:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/6-24-05through7-15-05.htm

Try and hit Control-F to search for something. If you try to search the document, you get an error message that says "Error: 57 Permission Denied" Try to do this on any of their other rumor mill archives, and there is not a problem searching through the document. Suspicious.

So, I searched it manually...and the article is simply not there anymore.

So, two things.

A. Back to the original point I had, obviously PFT has some pretty good sources sometimes, and some bad ones at other times. They nailed this Vickerson thing almost 3 weeks in advance of Vickerson firing his agent and his agent telling the Sun Sentinel about Kevin being late for meetings and taking a weekend off and being late for the symposium. If you can get use to their editorial, you can find what stuff they write is likely to be true, and what stuff they write is primarily their opinion.

B. I think it is obvious that SOMEONE threatened PFT with lawsuit, or threatened them with something, if they did not take that Vickerson blurb off the page. I don't know if that someone was tied to Nick Saban, but it certainly makes their report that Nick Saban had the Dolphins facility checked for bugs seem more plausible because 1) If Saban's willing to have PFT threatened to take down a rumor like that about Vickerson I wouldn't put a bug-sweep beyond him, and 2) Because if PFT had this thing nailed so perfectly three weeks in advance maybe Saban wouldn't be so crazy after all to have the place checked for bugs.

Interesting note...when I get time I think I'm going to go search for that article they wrote about Saban checking the facility for bugs. I wonder if THAT has been erased too....
 
VERY interesting.

PFT can find out some things, but usually they are just shooting in the dark. Remember they were also the first to break the story about us drafting Wright... However, there are too many of their "rumors" that never have come true to start making them a reliable source.
 
maybe they just have a guy close to a Dolphins offical
 
PFT will post any rumor floating out there , true or false. Some of them is bound to be true.

THey even posted the false schedule leak last year that was started here on FH. :lol:
 
Justasportsfan said:
PFT will post any rumor floating out there , true or false. Some of them is bound to be true.

THey even posted the false schedule leak last year that was started here on FH. :lol:


OK here goes,

I bet you most of you never knew, and couldn't tell by Justa's posts that Justa is actual a female. I ran into her one day at Blockbuster, needless to say she looks just like a typical Bills fan.
:escape:
 
I guess some people will believe what they want to believe about PFT. I know I've followed them probably for about 5 to 7 years now. They have sources.

I think what may have happened is a source leaked it to them and then realized that he could get in trouble with the coaching staff if they traced it to them, and PFT may have retracted it as a favor to the source. Looks like Saban has some more reconaissance to do :)
 
hey, if a blind man shoots a wall with 30 bullets, hes eventually gonna hit it once.

PFT may be right here, but they've been wrong so many times.
 
PhinPhreak said:
OK here goes,

I bet you most of you never knew, and couldn't tell by Justa's posts that Justa is actual a female. I ran into her one day at Blockbuster, needless to say she looks just like a typical Bills fan.
:escape:
and so the secret is out :mg:
 
Saban4prez said:
hey, if a blind man shoots a wall with 30 bullets, hes eventually gonna hit it once.

PFT may be right here, but they've been wrong so many times.


And right so many times...
 
Maybe they just knew from someone who's a receptionist or whatnot and keeps their ears open for gossip...

I am sure the coaches and players aren't the only ones who know what goes on....and although people will sign a confidentiality agreement, odds are that if it's too juicy they won't keep it shut and tell the wrong person who will go out and put it out there for all to see.
 
Good investigative work CK...I think PFT tends to be somewhat unreliable compared to a lot of publications and NFL site info I have read...they have too much specualtion and rumor and not enough validation.
 
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