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This is from a post on 03-14-2006, 10:49 PM

PhinPhreak said:
The worst thing that could have ever happened is for the Fins to have a choice of 2 QB's. Once that happened regardless of the outcome there were going to be unhappy fans. Been that way for years, even when Dan was here there were people that wanted Scott Mitchell & Damon Huard.

This was before we even had Harrington, but directly after we got Culpepper.
 
Damon Huard doesnt look bad for KC just think if we would have kept him and not feidler.
 
woody1351 said:
Damon Huard doesnt look bad for KC just think if we would have kept him and not feidler.

I was a Huard supporter after Marino called it quits. But the new sheriffe in town knew what he was doing with a backup from Jacksonville.
 
I was al little upset when we let Huard go, the guy was 4-1 as a starter when Marino was hurt one year. With the O-Line we had back then he was very capable of leading this team to the playoffs. Especially after we got Ricky, who knows what we could have done in 03.
 
phins4gish said:
This is from a post on 03-14-2006, 10:49 PM



This was before we even had Harrington, but directly after we got Culpepper.

The problem was not that you had a choice of 2 QB's. The problem is you chose the wrong one.
 
finsrclowns said:
The problem was not that you had a choice of 2 QB's. The problem is you chose the wrong one.
Have the balls to reveal ur team on this site if ur gonna bash the Phins dude.
 
finsrclowns said:
The problem was not that you had a choice of 2 QB's. The problem is you chose the wrong one.

I hate to agree with him but at this point and time he's right. Brees is producing alot better than the QB we had gotten.
 
Brees doesnt do anything...He cant throw the ball down the feild...He dumps it off to reggie bush and colston he cant hit joe horn ever....Brees is not better than culpepper..
 
PhinFan0202 said:
I hate to agree with him but at this point and time he's right. Brees is producing alot better than the QB we had gotten.
I posted this same info on a thread this past week. Most people agree
that Brees has a better O-line then CPepp. Brees also has two really
good running backs behind him. So given that you would expect Brees
to have better production but he hasn't if you look at the stats.

Brees has thrown 4 TDs and 0 rushing TDs - Total 4
Cpepp has thrown 2 TDs and 1 rushing TD - Total 3
Brees has one more TD

Bress has thrown 2 Ints and lost 2 fumbles - Total 4 turnovers
Cpepp has thrown 3 Ints and lost 0 fumbers - Total 3 turnovers
Brees has one more turnover

Brees has thrown for 1063 yards and 9 rushing yards - total 1072 yards
Cpepp has trhown for 929 yards and 20 rusing yards - total 949 yards
Brees has 123 more yards

You can't make the case that Brees has been more productive. Does his
team have a better record? Yes, but the coaching staff, defense, special
teams and offense are all playing a role in that.
 
BLB13 said:
I posted this same info on a thread this past week. Most people agree
that Brees has a better O-line the CPepp. Brees also has two really
good running backs behind him. So given that you would expect Brees
to have better production but he hasn't if you look at the stats.

Brees has thrown 4 TDs and 0 rushing TDs - Total 4
Cpepp has thrown 2 TDs and 1 rushing TD - Total 3
Brees has one more TD

Bress has thrown 2 Ints and lost 2 fumbles - Total 4 turnovers
Cpepp has thrown 3 Ints and lost 0 fumbers - Total 3 turnovers
Brees has one more turnover

Brees has thrown for 1063 yards and 9 rushing yards - total 1072 yards
Cpepp has trhown for 929 yards and 20 rusing yards - total 949 yards
Brees has 123 more yards

You can't make the case that Brees has been more productive. Does his
team have a better record? Yes, but the coaching staff, defense, special
teams and offense are all playing a role in that.

The thing is Brees makes his team better because of the way that he plays the game. If Aaron Brooks was still behind center he would throwing it backwards instead of forwards. The Stats are misleading when it comes to rating the QBs as well. On paper it would seem that they are close but when you watch them play they are completley different. When Brees makes a mistake he's shown he can come back and still play the game as opposed to Dante who has a reputation for getting down when the chips don't go his way.
 
PhinFan0202 said:
The thing is Brees makes his team better because of the way that he plays the game. If Aaron Brooks was still behind center he would throwing it backwards instead of forwards. The Stats are misleading when it comes to rating the QBs as well. On paper it would seem that they are close but when you watch them play they are completley different. When Brees makes a mistake he's shown he can come back and still play the game as opposed to Dante who has a reputation for getting down when the chips don't go his way.

Well then maybe we should look at it this way. Again, everyone seems to
agree that the Dolphin O-line is bad. Maybe Cpepp holds onto the ball too
long but the O-line is still bad. Cpepp is a much bigger/stronger guy than
Brees. If we had taken Brees maybe he would have thrown the ball away
more often than Cpepp has but do you really think we would have made
it this far without further injury?
 
PhinFan0202 said:
I hate to agree with him but at this point and time he's right. Brees is producing alot better than the QB we had gotten.
There is some truth in what you are saying, but I think it should be emphasised at this point. There is no way of telling who is going to be the better QB in the next 4 games, or 4 years for that matter. I will be the first to admit that Daunte has performed poorly and that he doesn't appear to be improving as quickly as some of his ardent supporters suggest, but I'm not convivned that a full and accurate assessment can be made after 4 games. As an example, take a look back to the 2001-2002 season. The NE Patriots started the season 1-3 and were written off by many in the media after losing two divisional games and getting beat by a mediiocre Cincy team, but after beating the Bolts in Overtime, they went on to finish 11-5, and win the SuperBowl. I'm not suggesting that this will happen with Miami -although it would be deliciously ironic if we started a similar streak this week in NE- but it just goes to show that rash judgements don't always end up being accurate.
Just as it was too early to write the Pats off in 2001-2002, I think it is a little premature to suggest that the fins are dead, or that Brees was the better choice.
 
BLB13 said:
Well then maybe we should look at it this way. Again, everyone seems to
agree that the Dolphin O-line is bad. Maybe Cpepp holds onto the ball too
long but the O-line is still bad. Cpepp is a much bigger/stronger guy than
Brees. If we had taken Brees maybe he would have thrown the ball away
more often than Cpepp has but do you really think we would have made
it this far without further injury?

There is no way to tell if he would have gotten injured at all. The protection isn't always good but there are open receivers on the field and chances are Brees would have found them. He has pocket presence and knows when the rush is coming and where to get rid of the ball. He can read defenses and has proven it. Everyone who said it's just Gates that makes Brees better is wrong.
 
PhinFan0202 said:
There is no way to tell if he would have gotten injured at all. The protection isn't always good but there are open receivers on the field and chances are Brees would have found them. He has pocket presence and knows when the rush is coming and where to get rid of the ball. He can read defenses and has proven it. Everyone who said it's just Gates that makes Brees better is wrong.

Everyone is entitle to their opinion but I really don't think it would make too much difference at this point if we would have taken Brees or Culpepper. I'm not saying the O-line is the only problem but look at R.Browns numbers. There is no place for him to run either. Without a good running game none of the available QBs would do anything with this team.
Then there are the mistakes such as Booker dropping the easy 4th down pass that would have picked up a bunch of yards and possibly a TD.
Everyone wants a scape goat but I don't buy that if you replace Cpepp
with Brees that we would be much better off.
 
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