Positives on Tua, Negatives on McDaniel (article)

[TheMageGandalf]

Miami Heralds Barry Jackson article...

Riddick struck back at any suggestion that Tua Tagovailoa can’t throw an effective deep ball. “In college, Tua was the best deep ball thrower in the NCAA when he was there,” Riddick said. “People are saying he can’t throw the ball down the field. Pull out his Alabama tape. He threw the ball just fine there. Now he needs to do it because they aren’t going to make any more excuses for him.”

.....One peculiarity about the McDaniel hire — for better or worse- is that none of the other eight teams with coaching openings interviewed McDaniel. I asked an official involved with one of the other coaching searches why this was the case. “He wasn’t a play caller,” that official said. “Not that he can’t call plays, but he hasn’t done it for a season. It didn’t register with us to bring him in. I didn’t see anything that we thought would be special. We wanted an offensive-minded head coach with play calling experience.” That team hired someone who fit that criteria. The Dolphins saw special qualities in McDaniel, who has made a strong early impression on players.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/...y-jackson/article261007807.html#storylink=cpy

 

[NY8123]

I said in a different thread "nobody wants to coach in Jacksonville anyway".

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

Sounds fair. It is odd that Miami was the only team to bring McDaniel in for an interview.

The Dolphins don't exactly have a great track record for hiring coaches either. But that doesn't mean they didn't get it right. Time will tell.

 

[NY8123]

Sounds fair. It is odd that Miami was the only team to bring McDaniel in for an interview.

The Dolphins don't exactly have a great track record for hiring coaches either. But that doesn't mean they didn't get it right. Time will tell.

What's odd is the fact that every single source that was external to South Beach called McDaniel one of the brightest and most intelligent coaching minds in all of football and loved this hire. We heard that before from Peyton on Gase but not from anyone else. We heard nothing like this on Philbin, in fact the reaction from the media was very underwhelming on his hire.

I think Barry has been reading too much of Omar's ****. Hey maybe McDaniel will crap out but I can tell you the vibe is so much more different in the short time he's been here than ever before. Reminds me of McVay in LA. Let's hope we have the McRight hire finally.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

What's odd is the fact that every single source that was external to South Beach called McDaniel one of the brightest and most intelligent coaching minds in all of football and loved this hire. We heard that before from Peyton on Gase but not from anyone else. We heard nothing like this on Philbin, in fact the reaction from the media was very underwhelming on his hire.

I think Barry has been reading too much of Omar's ****. Hey maybe McDaniel will crap out but I can tell you the vibe is so much more different in the short time he's been here than ever before. Reminds me of McVay in LA. Let's hope we have the McRight hire finally.

It does feel different. Unlike with Gase, Philbin and Cameron, McDaniel has a lot of talent to work with. On both sides of the ball.

It feels like this team is ready to take off.

 

[mrbunglez]

Miami already had a head start in talking McD to Miami, he was interviewed for the OC spot last year.

 

[utahphinsfan]

What's odd is the fact that every single source that was external to South Beach called McDaniel one of the brightest and most intelligent coaching minds in all of football and loved this hire. We heard that before from Peyton on Gase but not from anyone else. We heard nothing like this on Philbin, in fact the reaction from the media was very underwhelming on his hire.

I think Barry has been reading too much of Omar's ****. Hey maybe McDaniel will crap out but I can tell you the vibe is so much more different in the short time he's been here than ever before. Reminds me of McVay in LA. Let's hope we have the McRight hire finally.

Peyton is just congenitally nice and probably can't say anything mean about anyone EVER.

 

[Marino2.0]

Who cares? Would we have liked it better if all 8 interviewed him but only we offered him a job?

There was no pick of the litter candidate who everyone wanted in this cycle. That being the case, I’m perfectly fine with us going slightly outside the box and hiring a guy nobody else interviewed.

At the end of the day, there’s no common thread linking elite head coaches. Belichick was a defensive minded also-ran who’d been fired by Cleveland. Andy Reid was an assistant in his 40s who’d never even been a coordinator, at any level, at the time he got the Eagles head coaching gig. McVay was a 30 year old offensive prodigy. John Harbaugh was a mid-40s special teams coordinator.

Truth is, hiring coaches is even more of a crap shoot than drafting quarterbacks. Best you can do is hire a good, detail oriented leader and hope for the best.

 

[AdamD13]

There is no reason for McDaniel not to succeed.

Inherited a good core group of players with 4 years experience or less that should only get better...Tua, Gaskin, Waddle, Gesicki, Smythe, Long, Jackson, Hunt, Eichenberg, Deiter, Wilkins, Phillips, Davis, Baker, Van Ginkel, Holland, Brandon Jones.

Essentially kept the entire defense intact resigning Ogbah. Drafted Tindball.

Was able to lavishly spend on free agency and Hill trade to assemble an offense to implement his system...Bridgewater, Edmonds, Mostert, Armstead, Williams, Hill, and Wilson. Drafted Ezukanma.

Even improved ST with the addition of Morstead.

This is a team that is coming off back-to-back winning seasons, won 19 of last 31, 8 of last 9, and 7 game losing streak coincided with starting QB cracking rib then middle finger on throwing hand. All of that when the HC was supposedly sabotaging the Dolphins.

Given the context anything less than the playoffs could be considered an epic failure on McDaniel's part.

Few HC's get hired into a better situation.

 

[1972forever]

Sounds fair. It is odd that Miami was the only team to bring McDaniel in for an interview.

The Dolphins don't exactly have a great track record for hiring coaches either. But that doesn't mean they didn't get it right. Time will tell.

I will admit, I had no idea who MCDaniel was when his name was first mentioned as a possible head coaching candidate for the Dolphins job.

After researching him, I was hesitant about them hiring him because he basically had a similar role with the 49ers that Philbin had with the Packers before he was hired by the Dolphins. Both of them helped formula an offensive game plan during the week, while it was the HC who called the offensive plays on game days.

I like MCDaniel and I believe he has done an excellent job of hiring a solid coaching staff. He stated when he was hired that he would be calling the offensive plays on game day, even though he has coaches with previous play calling responsibility on his staff. So we will have to wait and see how calling plays for the first time as a coach will work out.

I am rooting for him to be a success but the fact is once the games begin it’s all about wins and losses. Only then will we will learn if he was the right choice or not.

 

[Austin Tatious]

Miami Heralds Barry Jackson article...

Riddick struck back at any suggestion that Tua Tagovailoa can’t throw an effective deep ball. “In college, Tua was the best deep ball thrower in the NCAA when he was there,” Riddick said. “People are saying he can’t throw the ball down the field. Pull out his Alabama tape. He threw the ball just fine there. Now he needs to do it because they aren’t going to make any more excuses for him.”

.....One peculiarity about the McDaniel hire — for better or worse- is that none of the other eight teams with coaching openings interviewed McDaniel. I asked an official involved with one of the other coaching searches why this was the case. “He wasn’t a play caller,” that official said. “Not that he can’t call plays, but he hasn’t done it for a season. It didn’t register with us to bring him in. I didn’t see anything that we thought would be special. We wanted an offensive-minded head coach with play calling experience.” That team hired someone who fit that criteria. The Dolphins saw special qualities in McDaniel, who has made a strong early impression on players.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/...y-jackson/article261007807.html#storylink=cpy

Somebody plaster that quote on a board and put it on a wall in the building (“it didn’t register with us to bring him in. I didn’t see anything that would be special”).

 

[dan the fin]

What's odd is the fact that every single source that was external to South Beach called McDaniel one of the brightest and most intelligent coaching minds in all of football and loved this hire. We heard that before from Peyton on Gase but not from anyone else. We heard nothing like this on Philbin, in fact the reaction from the media was very underwhelming on his hire.

I think Barry has been reading too much of Omar's ****. Hey maybe McDaniel will crap out but I can tell you the vibe is so much more different in the short time he's been here than ever before. Reminds me of McVay in LA. Let's hope we have the McRight hire finally.

I really don't think it is meant by that GM to be a negative or that he doesn't like McDaniel. More of that in his process for HC he wants a guy that has playcalling experience.

I personally don't think playcalling is a necessity for being a great HC, but it does offer another data point while searching for a HC.

When we hired McDaniel I like him from a personal stand point, but said the first thing I wanted to see before getting to excited was what kind of staff he brought in.

I have always said when being a first time HC your staff can make or break you. I think McDaniel but together a great staff for a first time HC. He didn't come in and act like a know it all and just start firing guys. For the most part he kept the D staff, only a couple moves. Even on the O side (his side) that needed a lot of fixing he did just walk in a can people. He talked to FO personnel and players on who they liked as coaches and even kept a few guys from the old staff. Then he hired a great mix of some guys that are more young upcoming coaches and guys that have been there done that. When you look at each individual and see what they do you, you can see the overall plan.
AHC/TE Embree- worked with McDaniel a lot. Good TE coach. Loads of experience as an AHC was even a HC in college.

AHC/RB Studesville- Savvy move here as Studs is very well liked among players and has been good as a RB coach. McDaniel threw him the AHC title form losing the OC title.

OC Smith- a bit younger and limited play calling. Some risk here but he matches up well as a zone block run guy with McDaniel.

QB Bevell- Grand slam hire. Worried about lack of playcalling experience, well he has 15+ years and a SB. And a big time QB guy/coach. Started with Farve and was there when they picked Rodgers. Upon selecting Wilson, coach Pete Carroll stated, "It was Bevell's project".

OL Applebaum- Young guy but a great scheme fit guy. Lacks NFL experience but he can lean on OC Smith as well.

WR Welker. Love it guy definitely know how to work to get open and experience with Miami and McDaniel.

AOL LJP- yes he was bad last year at OL. But supposedly very well like and was considered a young upcoming guy not long ago. At least he may be groomed some more behind guy. Was not ready to be the man at OL.

QC Gizzard- just throwing him out he to because well again another well like supposed smart coach (anylics guy). Just was no where ready to be a position coach especially a position he never played ever (WR).

You can just see the overall construction of this staff. Young guys that are backed up by experienced guys in there new roles. Willing to bring some guys back that we're liked by the players. McDaniel constructed a staff that fits (at least on paper). I have broken down a lot Flores O staffs before so not going to go in depth again. But they changed every year and lacked antype of experience or cohesion at all.

Anyway hopefully at the end of the year this is me when thinking about this staff.

 

[1972forever]

Peyton is just congenitally nice and probably can't say anything mean about anyone EVER.

Other than the female trainer at the University of Tennesseee who was paid $300,000 after complaining about Manning sexually assaulting her while she was giving him therapy on his ankle.

He was 19 at the time and he obviously learned a lesson but if not for the fact he was Peyton Manning and the starting QB, it’s very likely he would have been released from the team and kicked out of school.

 

[Sherif]

Who cares? Would we have liked it better if all 8 interviewed him but only we offered him a job?

There was no pick of the litter candidate who everyone wanted in this cycle. That being the case, I’m perfectly fine with us going slightly outside the box and hiring a guy nobody else interviewed.

At the end of the day, there’s no common thread linking elite head coaches. Belichick was a defensive minded also-ran who’d been fired by Cleveland. Andy Reid was an assistant in his 40s who’d never even been a coordinator, at any level, at the time he got the Eagles head coaching gig. McVay was a 30 year old offensive prodigy. John Harbaugh was a mid-40s special teams coordinator.

Truth is, hiring coaches is even more of a crap shoot than drafting quarterbacks. Best you can do is hire a good, detail oriented leader and hope for the best.

It took time for a lot of these coaches to achieve success. Reid was 5-11 in his first year coaching the Eagles. I'm willing to give McD 2-3 years it's a complicated job with lots of moving parts he will have to acclimate to clock management, play calling, personnel and average RBs. I hope he hits the ground running but I'm expecting lots of bumps on the way. We followed SF's crappy record to start the season before lighting it up in the running game around Nov and Dec. The betting public is saying 8-9 wins and fans are thinking 11 wins. Below are the 9ers games last year. It's unfortunate Flores was an A hole because we could have been successful with him if he wasn't a jerk as a head coach.

 

[NY8123]

Other than the female trainer at the University of Tennesseee who was paid $300,000 after complaining about Manning sexually assaulting her while she was giving him therapy on his ankle.

He was 19 at the time and he obviously learned a lesson but if not for the fact he was Peyton Manning and the starting QB, it’s very likely he would have been released from the team and kicked out of school.

I'm not saying she's a liar but I never bought this story. I think there was more too it and I read once that it was a two way street.

I think Manning and his lawyers said "let's make this go away quietly and quickly and you can move on to making your millions".