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just a thought but I'd like to get your impressions.....I'll discuss it below....

..Marty Booker for Hines Ward


now, reasoning....Hines Ward is arguably one of the top 5 WR in the league. He's holding out (and it may be a long one) because he was looking for a contract extension that paid him like he was a top 10 reciever (his contract expires after this season).

Marty Booker is a very good WR who's not currently in the top 10 WR in the league but has been to the probowl and led the NFC in rec. yrds one season. He's signed thru 2008 to a deal at 2.9 mill with no known bonus. This is a good deal (not great)

The reason Pitt does it: While Ward is beloved in the 'Burgh they obivously don't want to pay the guy like a top 10 WR. That's fine, it's their choice. But there is already some PR backlash against the Steeler's for not getting something done. Trading him for another good WR signed to a longterm deal solves 2 problems.

Why Pitt doesn't do it: The town loves the guy. If they don't sign him it looks very bad. Trading him doesn't get them totally out of the jam from a PR perspective but letting him sit out and then walk might look worse.

Why Miami does it: Well, first off, Ward is a better WR. Booker is good, Ward is better. 2nd, Ward is a year or or two younger as well (7 yrs). 3rd, Ward isn't asking for TO type money, it's a workable amount.

Why Miami doesn't do it: They don't want to spend top 10 money on another WR since Chambers already has that type of contract and spending a total of 7-8 mill on 2 wr doesn't make sense to them. Even if they can afford it's just too much money.



This was just an idea. I like Booker and don't really want to trade the guy but in addition to this being an upgrade at the WR spot, Booker has to be included for salary cap purposes. besides, I've always loved the way Ward plays and up until this contract issue he's always seemed to be a great guy that people liked. IF they wanted a guy like Thompson to make it work I'd also through him in.

Thoughts and comments?



p.s. On a crazier side....we do include the draft rights to Ronnie Brown (since the team simply doesn't want to pay him like a #2 overall pick) with Booker for Ward, Troy Polamalu and a draft pick next year. Troy certainly solves any current or future problem as the safety spot. (it also means we can cut Tillman immediately :)) Please don't slamm this part, I'm just throwing it on the end for fun...I do want to know what you think about the Booker for Ward straight up though.
 
zephon said:
just a thought but I'd like to get your impressions.....I'll discuss it below....

..Marty Booker for Hines Ward


now, reasoning....Hines Ward is arguably one of the top 5 WR in the league. He's holding out (and it may be a long one) because he was looking for a contract extension that paid him like he was a top 10 reciever (his contract expires after this season).

Marty Booker is a very good WR who's not currently in the top 10 WR in the league but has been to the probowl and led the NFC in rec. yrds one season. He's signed thru 2008 to a deal at 2.9 mill with no known bonus. This is a good deal (not great)

The reason Pitt does it: While Ward is beloved in the 'Burgh they obivously don't want to pay the guy like a top 10 WR. That's fine, it's their choice. But there is already some PR backlash against the Steeler's for not getting something done. Trading him for another good WR signed to a longterm deal solves 2 problems.

Why Pitt doesn't do it: The town loves the guy. If they don't sign him it looks very bad. Trading him doesn't get them totally out of the jam from a PR perspective but letting him sit out and then walk might look worse.

Why Miami does it: Well, first off, Ward is a better WR. Booker is good, Ward is better. 2nd, Ward is a year or or two younger as well (7 yrs). 3rd, Ward isn't asking for TO type money, it's a workable amount.

Why Miami doesn't do it: They don't want to spend top 10 money on another WR since Chambers already has that type of contract and spending a total of 7-8 mill on 2 wr doesn't make sense to them. Even if they can afford it's just too much money.



This was just an idea. I like Booker and don't really want to trade the guy but in addition to this being an upgrade at the WR spot, Booker has to be included for salary cap purposes. besides, I've always loved the way Ward plays and up until this contract issue he's always seemed to be a great guy that people liked. IF they wanted a guy like Thompson to make it work I'd also through him in.

Thoughts and comments?



p.s. On a crazier side....we do include the draft rights to Ronnie Brown (since the team simply doesn't want to pay him like a #2 overall pick) with Booker for Ward, Troy Polamalu and a draft pick next year. Troy certainly solves any current or future problem as the safety spot. (it also means we can cut Tillman immediately :)) Please don't slamm this part, I'm just throwing it on the end for fun...I do want to know what you think about the Booker for Ward straight up though.




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Scrap said:
Never happen.

can you expand on that...like why. I do understand that it's not likely, I'm just interested in knowing why you think it'll never happen.
 
FinsAreLife said:
:shakeno:

ok but why?....and please...nothing like "it's just stupid" that doesn't help me. If I can get reasons why, it'll keep me from submitting something else in the future that people don't like. :)
 
34isback said:
we can't pay Brown, how can we afford Ward?

thank you, at least you gave a reason why it wouldn't work. But I think that with the swap of bookers salary helps make him affordable...now whether the team want to actually pay it is a whole another thing...like you stated.
 
I just don't think the team or booker would go for that trade. That would be awesome if we could get Troy though, the guys an amimal, thats the kinda safety this team needs.
 
zephon said:
ok but why?....and please...nothing like "it's just stupid" that doesn't help me. If I can get reasons why, it'll keep me from submitting something else in the future that people don't like. :)


even though he is holding out in pitt and it would help their situation their, it would hurt us, we dont have that money and it is more vital to get brown in camp right now, also pitt wouldnt accept that, Ward is better then booker and is coming off a way better season, they will get ward in camp and trading would hurt them, its just not possible unless we threw in a draft pick or another player which is not somethign were willing to give up right now
 
zephon said:
can you expand on that...like why. I do understand that it's not likely, I'm just interested in knowing why you think it'll never happen.
Ward for Booker would be a bad deal for Pittsburg. Maybe a Ward for Booker and a draft pick type of trade. This late in the offseason, I think even that would be bad for both teams.
 
and another thing, they need to keep elite status in WR corps due to their loss in Plaxico buress, ther are many other reasonings this is just crazy but i think what i stated above is enough, its like fantasy football, its a trade that wont even come to mind to either team
 
zephon said:
just a thought but I'd like to get your impressions.....I'll discuss it below....

..Marty Booker for Hines Ward


now, reasoning....Hines Ward is arguably one of the top 5 WR in the league. He's holding out (and it may be a long one) because he was looking for a contract extension that paid him like he was a top 10 reciever (his contract expires after this season).

Marty Booker is a very good WR who's not currently in the top 10 WR in the league but has been to the probowl and led the NFC in rec. yrds one season. He's signed thru 2008 to a deal at 2.9 mill with no known bonus. This is a good deal (not great)

The reason Pitt does it: While Ward is beloved in the 'Burgh they obivously don't want to pay the guy like a top 10 WR. That's fine, it's their choice. But there is already some PR backlash against the Steeler's for not getting something done. Trading him for another good WR signed to a longterm deal solves 2 problems.

Why Pitt doesn't do it: The town loves the guy. If they don't sign him it looks very bad. Trading him doesn't get them totally out of the jam from a PR perspective but letting him sit out and then walk might look worse.

Why Miami does it: Well, first off, Ward is a better WR. Booker is good, Ward is better. 2nd, Ward is a year or or two younger as well (7 yrs). 3rd, Ward isn't asking for TO type money, it's a workable amount.

Why Miami doesn't do it: They don't want to spend top 10 money on another WR since Chambers already has that type of contract and spending a total of 7-8 mill on 2 wr doesn't make sense to them. Even if they can afford it's just too much money.



This was just an idea. I like Booker and don't really want to trade the guy but in addition to this being an upgrade at the WR spot, Booker has to be included for salary cap purposes. besides, I've always loved the way Ward plays and up until this contract issue he's always seemed to be a great guy that people liked. IF they wanted a guy like Thompson to make it work I'd also through him in.

Thoughts and comments?



p.s. On a crazier side....we do include the draft rights to Ronnie Brown (since the team simply doesn't want to pay him like a #2 overall pick) with Booker for Ward, Troy Polamalu and a draft pick next year. Troy certainly solves any current or future problem as the safety spot. (it also means we can cut Tillman immediately :)) Please don't slamm this part, I'm just throwing it on the end for fun...I do want to know what you think about the Booker for Ward straight up though.

Dude..If we ever got Hines Ward, I'd kiss GM Randy Mueller's feet on national TV. Not going to happen though. He is a STUD and Pittsburgh wont make that deal. Also, he'd command way too much money and with the money we are already paying Chambers, it'd be foolish to spend that much on two WR's.
 
Booker is a good wideout for what you need him for... but he is nowhere near Hines Ward... If the Steelers were looking to move Ward, they could find a much better deal.
 
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