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Preface this by saying that i think henne will be improved this season...


ESPN charted football games in detail over the past three years (2008 thru 2010) with AdvancedNFLStats.com and FootballOutsiders.com given credit for assisting in the charting of data.
Here are the top ten (10) Total QBR for a given year during the period (2008-2010):

1. 2009 – Peyton Manning (IND) – 82.3
2. 2008 – Peyton Manning (IND) – 79.7
3. 2009 – Drew Brees (NO) – 77.2
4. 2010 – Tom Brady (NE) – 76.0
5. 2008 – Matt Ryan (ATL) – 72.6
6. 2008 Chad Pennington (MIA) – 72.3
7. 2009 – Philip Rivers (SD) – 71.8
8. 2008 – Jay Cutler (DEN) – 71.3
9. 2009 – Matt Schaub (HOU) – 71.0
10. 2009 – Aaron Rogers (GB) – 69.7

No surprise that Peyton Manning has the top two — in fact, his 2011 Total QBR is #11. What is a surprise — Tom Brady is only on the Top 10 list once along with Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, and Matt Schaub. I think it is no surprise to PhinPhanatics that the 2008 performance of Chad Pennington is #6.

So, where is the performance of Chad Henne and the Total QBR?
52. 2009 – Chad Henne (MIA) – 51.1
77. 2010 – Chad Henne (MIA) – 41.4

The important thing to note from Henne’s performance is the regression from 2009 to 2010 and the sub par performance in 2010 that we all know about. The 2010 performance is largely indicative of all his sacks, interceptions, and fumbles — especially, in the fourth quarter.

Other notable ratings include:
47. 2009 – Carson Palmer (CIN) – 53.2
48. 2009 – Kyle Orton (DEN) – 52.9
55. 2008 – Tyler Thigpen (KC) – 50.8
61. 2010 – Ryan Fitzpatrick (BUF) – 48.7
62. 2010 – Mark Sanchez (NYJ) – 47.4
63. 2010 – Carson Palmer (CIN) – 46.7
64. 2010 – Colt McCoy (CLE) – 46.6
65. 2010 – Kyle Orton (DEN) – 46.6

So, we now have a different QB rating to look at. ESPN plans to highlight this in their stats. I think it is good because the max rating is 100, rather than some max esoteric number that hardly anyone understands. Also, I think it is good because the Total QBR takes into account when negative plays (sacks, interception, fumbles) take place.

What do you think?
 
Henne > Sanchez! This proves it!
 
Preface this by saying that i think henne will be improved this season...


ESPN charted football games in detail over the past three years (2008 thru 2010) with AdvancedNFLStats.com and FootballOutsiders.com given credit for assisting in the charting of data.
Here are the top ten (10) Total QBR for a given year during the period (2008-2010):

1. 2009 – Peyton Manning (IND) – 82.3
2. 2008 – Peyton Manning (IND) – 79.7
3. 2009 – Drew Brees (NO) – 77.2
4. 2010 – Tom Brady (NE) – 76.0
5. 2008 – Matt Ryan (ATL) – 72.6
6. 2008 Chad Pennington (MIA) – 72.3
7. 2009 – Philip Rivers (SD) – 71.8
8. 2008 – Jay Cutler (DEN) – 71.3
9. 2009 – Matt Schaub (HOU) – 71.0
10. 2009 – Aaron Rogers (GB) – 69.7

No surprise that Peyton Manning has the top two — in fact, his 2011 Total QBR is #11. What is a surprise — Tom Brady is only on the Top 10 list once along with Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler, and Matt Schaub. I think it is no surprise to PhinPhanatics that the 2008 performance of Chad Pennington is #6.

So, where is the performance of Chad Henne and the Total QBR?
52. 2009 – Chad Henne (MIA) – 51.1
77. 2010 – Chad Henne (MIA) – 41.4

The important thing to note from Henne’s performance is the regression from 2009 to 2010 and the sub par performance in 2010 that we all know about. The 2010 performance is largely indicative of all his sacks, interceptions, and fumbles — especially, in the fourth quarter.

Other notable ratings include:
47. 2009 – Carson Palmer (CIN) – 53.2
48. 2009 – Kyle Orton (DEN) – 52.9
55. 2008 – Tyler Thigpen (KC) – 50.8
61. 2010 – Ryan Fitzpatrick (BUF) – 48.7
62. 2010 – Mark Sanchez (NYJ) – 47.4
63. 2010 – Carson Palmer (CIN) – 46.7
64. 2010 – Colt McCoy (CLE) – 46.6
65. 2010 – Kyle Orton (DEN) – 46.6

So, we now have a different QB rating to look at. ESPN plans to highlight this in their stats. I think it is good because the max rating is 100, rather than some max esoteric number that hardly anyone understands. Also, I think it is good because the Total QBR takes into account when negative plays (sacks, interception, fumbles) take place.

What do you think?

not sure how this rating is better than the current one So if u are a qb behind a bad oline they penalize u even more. Would love to see how any set of stats would rank Chad henne over either season of Kyle Orton > football outsiders also has some wacky ratings too so who knows . maybe if they could convert the current ratings to a 100 as max that would make more sense.
 
This certainly seems to support not spending a high draft pick on Orton is what i get from it.
 
This certainly seems to support not spending a high draft pick on Orton is what i get from it.

just seems any rating that has a Colt Mccoy rated even with orton shows that it has problems. 6 tds an 9 int is better than 20 tds and 9 interceptions I mean really. 7.3 yards per attempt is less than 7.1.
In fact the only stat that Mccoy comes out ahead in is a slight completion percentage so would love to see how they come by their numbers.
 
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