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Early this year, Randy Mueller made a comment that they were going to approach free agency and the draft with a "quantity over quality" mentality. Thus far, in free agency, we have not seen an influx of talent at any level. This makes me think that Randy is going to try to get more picks by trading our first round pick. I am not sure that you can get the maximum value for the ninth pick (most teams that are looking to trade up have fallen in love with a player that will be gone before the 9th pick), but I think if we find a willing partner and a good deal Randy will trade down/back in a heartbeat. I, for one, would support this type of a move because we have a lot of areas that need talent upgrades and we also need some youth. Lastly, this would be a way for Cam and Randy to put their stamp on this team without spending a lot of money in free agency.

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darsey said:
Early this year, Randy Mueller made a comment that they were going to approach free agency and the draft with a "quantity over quality" mentality. Thus far, in free agency, we have not seen an influx of talent at any level. This makes me think that Randy is going to try to get more picks by trading our first round pick. I am not sure that you can get the maximum value for the ninth pick (most teams that are looking to trade up have fallen in love with a player that will be gone before the 9th pick), but I think if we find a willing partner and a good deal Randy will trade down/back in a heartbeat. I, for one, would support this type of a move because we have a lot of areas that need talent upgrades and we also need some youth. Lastly, this would be a way for Cam and Randy to put their stamp on this team without spending a lot of money in free agency.

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I agree. Time to slide down.
 
why would you trade quality for quantity. if you get at least 1 great player then it is a good draft. if you just go for quantity, that puts us is the same situation as before the draft. we NEED quality players. you can get quantity in FA, you have to get quality in the draft.
 
Well for the most part we should always try to get more picks but if you can move up to get a guy u think will make a big impact at the right value u do it this way.
 
darsey said:
Early this year, Randy Mueller made a comment that they were going to approach free agency and the draft with a "quantity over quality" mentality. Thus far, in free agency, we have not seen an influx of talent at any level. This makes me think that Randy is going to try to get more picks by trading our first round pick. I am not sure that you can get the maximum value for the ninth pick (most teams that are looking to trade up have fallen in love with a player that will be gone before the 9th pick), but I think if we find a willing partner and a good deal Randy will trade down/back in a heartbeat. I, for one, would support this type of a move because we have a lot of areas that need talent upgrades and we also need some youth. Lastly, this would be a way for Cam and Randy to put their stamp on this team without spending a lot of money in free agency.

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Absa-fraggin-lutely

All the guys we really are looking at are mid to late 1st round anyway. In fact if the deal was right, we could trade completely out of the first round and do great.

Houston,Staley,Ginn,Meachem,Griffin,Sears,Blaylock,Grubbs, etc. etc. are all going to be available down the line.

I would take Pittsburghs 2nd,3rd, 4th, and 5th for our 1st, wouldn't you.

Don't laugh, they have two high comp picks and no room on their roster.

They will probably be trading up with someone.
 
has quantity helped us the past 5 years??? NO. we need QUALITY guys...sure the Patriots could do it...but we have tried drafting sleepers...hasnt worked yet. i wouldnt be opposed to trading our #9 to get a later 1st and extra 2nd tho...there's so much we can do in the 2nd round with that. im surprised that a guy like drew stanton would go in the 2nd...so many teams need a QB badly...ud think Stanton would go early.
 
I am with you on that. I am not saying that we should get a bunch of 6th round picks, but an extra second would be nice. Go for Staley in the late first round and then address qb(stanton), Wr(Rice or Gonzalez), and have an at large pick for the best player available.
 
Quantity only works if the some of the players you get pan out. You can draft as many players as you want but if none of them are as good as that one quality player, you lose out.
 
I'm always for trading down. JJ did well with ZT,JT, we had like 14 picks and some of them busted. But so do many first rounders and they usually don't get as long to learn as later round guys before they get thrown on the field. The other thing is the cap, high picks=high$$$. It is better to slide down even if you don't get all the compensation you want, just to get some more amicable salaries. It can ruin a team picking high and then paying millions to a top 10 bust! I think we can trade down this year because other teams will want players badly at #9. Landry, Peterson, Willis, OKoye, etc some of these guys will be there and someone will be calling. Good point about Pitt, we could use those picks, let them roll the dice on #9.

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I think we are looking at Quinn and if hes not there,we trade our pick depending who slides to us at 9. IMO :cooldude:
 
Quantity over Quality is a horrible outlook. Do 30 crappy players have more value than 3 or 4 great players? We have seen plenty of times that one or two stars can work wonders with little (see, Patriots), but no stars never amount to much (Texans).

Quinn could make things happen with Chambers/Booker/Hakim/Hagan, plus we would prolly go WR in the 2nd round, so add whomeevr that is to the list too, and Brown at RB.

I think giving up a few picks for Quinn is a better strategy than amassing more but LOWER picks for players. Our biggest problem was QB last year (O-line was close, but not worse than QB). Our biggest problem has been QB since Marino left. We've had good lines, average lines, and bad lines since then and we still haven't won any SBs (and BARELY made the playoffs a couple times). So I don't see how getting a stacked line in this draft would help much with Culpepper and Cleo Lemon under center. I'd rather have a average O-line and a stud QB thn a great O-line and a crap QB. Take Quinn, give us a stud QB (it's what he projects as, and don't say he could bust because so could whatever OLs we take, ANYONE can), then take OL in round 2 or even 3. I don't see the talent being an INSANE amount of difference this year. Joe Thomas isn't even a super polished player and he's projected top 5, yet Kalil, Satele, Sears etc are all projected round 2 and have similar scouting reports.
 
Agent 51, you sound like I raised you. So far you've done an admirable job of expressing my thoughts, keep it up and I'm going to get paranoid!
 
You guys are really distorting what Mueller actually said back then. It was the beginning of the free agency period and he was talking about not paying exorbitant prices for hyped up FA's and going broke quick. He also at that time indicated he wanted to have an infusion of youth and build through the draft.
He is doing exactly what he said he was going to do and it is good.
 
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