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Question about the scouting department?

So I've been critical of the scouting department for years now. I know early on Grier headed that dept. How much pull do they have? I know they aren't the ones drafting. Is Grier asking them to scout certain players, or certain positions? It's more than just Grier that's at fault imo.
we don’t seem to have a scouting department
 
Find us guys with something to prove. Guys who were overlooked in the draft, but very talented and got passed over for one stupid reason or another. Guys who now want to prove the naysayers wrong. They just need a chance.

No more “big name” old guys.

Big name old guys have nothing to prove. See Tyreek etc. And they play that way.

Guys with something to prove will lay it on the line every play. Those are the kinds of players I’d like to see in Miami next season.

No name guys with something to prove.

Get us those kinds of players Grier.
 
So I've been critical of the scouting department for years now. I know early on Grier headed that dept. How much pull do they have? I know they aren't the ones drafting. Is Grier asking them to scout certain players, or certain positions? It's more than just Grier that's at fault imo.
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we have scouts all over regions of the country

They gather player info and pitch their prospects to the head man.

Ultimately it should be his final say on all players
 
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I went back and looked at Liam Eichenbergs draft profile and just shake my head at what Grier saw on him compared to others in the board.
 
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This they did a good job picking other than that they have done poor to mediocre based on the high picks they used and the value we got was middle of the road.
 
Our 2024 draft was good. Rates a B in my opinion. I think we have the ability to identify talent, but we haven’t adequately addressed strategically where our emphasis should be (OL) And we haven’t extended existing talent early at a cheaper rate.
 
So I've been critical of the scouting department for years now. I know early on Grier headed that dept. How much pull do they have? I know they aren't the ones drafting. Is Grier asking them to scout certain players, or certain positions? It's more than just Grier that's at fault imo.

Saw an article years ago on the NFL scouting process. The initial part is obvious. Scout 'big name' schools, focusing on those who looked good the previous year, but stayed. Talk to the coaches. Get recommendations for HIS players and opponents. Watch game and watch for players 'jumping out.' Stuff a HS coach does.
A lot of the article was focused on evaluation - where most scouts fail. Too much focus on college production and too little on technique, weaknesses, obsession to get better (admittingly harder). Film is a starting point, not an end point. And, (does this sound familiar?) scouts have weaknesses. Good at evaluating CBs. Poor with OL.
Last, the HC, OC, DC, position coaches are also scouts. Not initially, but they get scouts recommendations, watch film, do evaluation, and help develop the board. A lot of people involved and more complex than I make it sound.
I partly agree. The scouts are likely told of the positions to focus on and traits to be emphasized at those positions.
 
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