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Is Troy Smith like Michael Vick?? I know he can throw (obviously or he wouldnt be the QB of a #1 team...but is he a good scrambling QB like Vick is?? A guy who can run real well and what not? Or is he more like McNair, Culpepper, Brooks, McNabb...theyre better off just throwing.
 
He's nothing like Vick when it comes to scrambling, he's more of a McNabb where he's throw first but can run and use his athletic ability to scramble and get more time.
 
MustangFinFan said:
Is Troy Smith like Michael Vick?? I know he can throw (obviously or he wouldnt be the QB of a #1 team...but is he a good scrambling QB like Vick is?? A guy who can run real well and what not? Or is he more like McNair, Culpepper, Brooks, McNabb...theyre better off just throwing.
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There have been a handful of times where the QB wasn't that good of a thrower by NFL standards. You assume to much by saying that.

Troy Smith does have a strong arm though. Not the runner like Vick. He's in my opinion a much more athletic Bruce Gradkowski.
 
i dont think troy smith is an nfl qb but i could very well be wrong
 
Frisches13283 said:
There have been a handful of times where the QB wasn't that good of a thrower by NFL standards. You assume to much by saying that.

Troy Smith does have a strong arm though. Not the runner like Vick. He's in my opinion a much more athletic Bruce Gradkowski.
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well if u watch the Tampa Bay games...Gradkowski isnt exactly that great. So saying hes a much more athletic Bruce Gradkowski doesnt say much:(
 
Frisches13283 said:
There have been a handful of times where the QB wasn't that good of a thrower by NFL standards. You assume to much by saying that.

Troy Smith does have a strong arm though. Not the runner like Vick. He's in my opinion a much more athletic Bruce Gradkowski.
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The only similarity he has with Gradowski is that he is a short QB at around 6'1 and played in Ohio.

Smith has an very strong arm and throws a wonderful deep ball. On top of that he has appeared to be as coach-able as they come, and his mechanics rarely become sloppy. He keeps his eyes down field when hes under pressure and has shown a good feel for how to be a successful passer. I'm still trying to formulate an opinion on his leadership abilities, but from what I've seen in the past few years he definitely knows how to get hyped. We all know what he can do with his legs, but he has proved to be a pass first guy. McNabb is a good comparison.

That being said, from the Dolphins perspective, we shouldn't even think about him unless he somehow falls to a round he shouldn't.
 
MustangFinFan said:
well if u watch the Tampa Bay games...Gradkowski isnt exactly that great. So saying hes a much more athletic Bruce Gradkowski doesnt say much:(
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hes also a rookie making emergency starts..gotta cut him some slack
 
Troy Smith is the All Time Big 10 passing efficiency leader. He plays mistake free, has a rocket arm, is very smart, and most of all, he's a winner.
 
im iffy on him...he hasnt been this productive until this year...and remember last year he was a backup for a good while
 
MustangFinFan said:
well if u watch the Tampa Bay games...Gradkowski isnt exactly that great. So saying hes a much more athletic Bruce Gradkowski doesnt say much:(
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Actually it says a lot since I think Gradkowski will be an average NFL QB(very good back up).

Gradkowski was a monster in college. Possibly one of the most accurate ever(statistically) and he had an amazing QB efficiency rating. He's quite fast for a QB who is known for his passing. He was a proven winner in college. The only thing he lacked was height and the arm strength that most top QBs have. He's very intelligent though.

So to me saying Smith is a more physically gifted version of Gradkowski is a hell of a compliment coming from me.
 
saves said:
The only similarity he has with Gradowski is that he is a short QB at around 6'1 and played in Ohio.

Smith has an very strong arm and throws a wonderful deep ball. On top of that he has appeared to be as coach-able as they come, and his mechanics rarely become sloppy. He keeps his eyes down field when hes under pressure and has shown a good feel for how to be a successful passer. I'm still trying to formulate an opinion on his leadership abilities, but from what I've seen in the past few years he definitely knows how to get hyped. We all know what he can do with his legs, but he has proved to be a pass first guy. McNabb is a good comparison.

That being said, from the Dolphins perspective, we shouldn't even think about him unless he somehow falls to a round he shouldn't.
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How is that not like Gradkowski when he was in college? Gradkowski showed toughness, leadership, and the will to win at Toledo too.
 
Frisches13283 said:
How is that not like Gradkowski when he was in college? Gradkowski showed toughness, leadership, and the will to win at Toledo too.
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Okay? Toughness, leadership, and the will to win. Go to a flag football tournament and you will see those qualities.

But what he also showed was the inability to put juice on a pass more than 10 yards down the field, the ability to complete 10 screen passes and 10 dumps a game, and lack of anything resembling ideal measurable.

His career or playing style is nothing like Smiths. Smith had to beat out one of OSU's top recruits and former Mr. Ohio in Zwick to earn his job, and has shown a transformation since he first took the job. He went from a run first QB with a big arm to a amazing passer with fast legs in a very high powered, yet balanced offense in one of the best conferences in the nation. Bruce spent his whole career running trick plays trying to outscore the MAC. I like Bruce as a west-coast offense project, but past that....he is nothing like Troy Smith.

And Jaj...he wasn't a backup, he was in competition for his spot. And he didn't have the passing production he has this year for sure, but he showed us that he was the answer at QB and a winner, and they did beat ND in the Fiesta Bowl and spanked Michigan with him behind center.
 
PhinFan0202 said:
He's like David Gerrard from the Jags. Gerrard could probably start for any team in the NFL right now.
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10/17 with no TD's and under 90 yards passing???:rolleyes:
 
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