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Question: How do you balance the cap if these draft picks pan out?

Then why ask the question, it’s only an issue if they all pan out.

It's called a hypothetical question …. I made it clear I was in the dark about how the cap could interfere IF it happened ... was just trying to understand something ... if you don't want to answer ... cool ...but if you have no real reply to give why does it matter to you why I asked the question

There are plenty of "what if" questions/scenarios on this board ...
 
Nice conversation.

It always amazes me that the bad teams can't hold onto talent. I understand when the good teams lose players, but I guess it's all about how you build it. From a fans perspective, I do like the old NFL better where you could develop and hang onto players. That said, if I was a player the current system is much better. Teams like New England, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia really manage the cap well. They use free agency mostly for depth, rarely pay out big contracts unless it's a premium position guy. Of course, those teams also have great quarterback in a league where you've got to have one to win.

A little off topic, but I think the Dolphins are in a great position and a unique one right now for talent acquisition. I don't suggest a Suh type contract, but Miami could get away with some big contracts and still manage to pay their young "talent" when those players are due.
 
It's called a hypothetical question …. I made it clear I was in the dark about how the cap could interfere IF it happened ... was just trying to understand something ... if you don't want to answer ... cool ...but if you have no real reply to give why does it matter to you why I asked the question

There are plenty of "what if" questions/scenarios on this board ...
My post was a response to your reply to another poster, not your hypothetical thread question..
 
Assuming we haven’t mismanaged FA by signing a bunch of bloated long term contracts like Tanebuam, it should be doable. If we can keep this coming years crop of free agents to 3-4 year deals we should be all right. Those contracts should be expiring as this years second day picks need to be extended.
 
I don't see how it is any more or less complicated than what a team goes through every offseason. The same calculations have to be made whether it is a player on your roster getting a contract extension or a free agent being signed. The bonus of letting the player from your roster walk is the compensatory picks or potential picks/players acquired via trade.
 
Simple. You pick your core guys and try to re-sign them early. If they're not going to re-sign for a reasonable rate, trade them while on their rookie contracts to teams needing that position, and recoup draft picks. Rinse. Repeat.

The good part about everyone peaking at once is that they will all _know_ that they're leaving something special, something capable of becoming a dynasty once it all clicks … well at least during the peaks of their careers. So, hopefully that's when guys will be willing to accept less to stay in Miami. If we're winning, Miami is an easy sell, great weather, no state income taxes, wonderful for kids/wives/girlfriends, and you can do whatever you want. Lots of NFL players have their homes in the area that play for other teams. So, there will be a lot of incentives to stay in Miami if we're winning and ascending.

Will there be guys who want to cash in, ala Jarvis Landry, sure, and let them. But we want to trade them rather than let them go and work towards a 3rd round compensatory pick. When lots are coming up at once, it's easier to tell one that you'll just sign the other guy if he doesn't take a deal early. We can't keep them all, but if you look at our history, there's a real track record of guys being draft as Dolphins, then thinking they're awesome and leaving to become nobodys on other teams and often not even seeing out that next contract because they're found to be less talented than people thought they were when they played in Miami.

But if having that many talented guys on the team at once gives us a sniff at a Super Bowl or three, I'm all-in.
 
The way I see it, keep drafting high value positions and fill the rest of the team through FA... The hope is that besides your elite QB(when you actually get one), you're able to replace your incoming high value players by high value players on their rookie contracts.

I know, easier said than done.
 
They won’t all hit....We have a lot of cap space and other than 2020 we won’t be big players in free agency....

You keep what you want...you let go for compensatory picks the rest...that is the formula...you only retain key pieces and constantly reload.
 
Simple. You pick your core guys and try to re-sign them early. If they're not going to re-sign for a reasonable rate, trade them while on their rookie contracts to teams needing that position, and recoup draft picks. Rinse. Repeat.

The good part about everyone peaking at once is that they will all _know_ that they're leaving something special, something capable of becoming a dynasty once it all clicks … well at least during the peaks of their careers. So, hopefully that's when guys will be willing to accept less to stay in Miami. If we're winning, Miami is an easy sell, great weather, no state income taxes, wonderful for kids/wives/girlfriends, and you can do whatever you want. Lots of NFL players have their homes in the area that play for other teams. So, there will be a lot of incentives to stay in Miami if we're winning and ascending.

Will there be guys who want to cash in, ala Jarvis Landry, sure, and let them. But we want to trade them rather than let them go and work towards a 3rd round compensatory pick. When lots are coming up at once, it's easier to tell one that you'll just sign the other guy if he doesn't take a deal early. We can't keep them all, but if you look at our history, there's a real track record of guys being draft as Dolphins, then thinking they're awesome and leaving to become nobodys on other teams and often not even seeing out that next contract because they're found to be less talented than people thought they were when they played in Miami.

But if having that many talented guys on the team at once gives us a sniff at a Super Bowl or three, I'm all-in.

We’ve watched several players leave New England for the payday...and return later...they are the model and what you can expect...the beauty is we are a better destination for tax and weather reasons, Massachusetts is a Marxist/socialist cold place to live....
 
I know nothing with regard to how the cap actually works (except for the obvious) ...

If these picks we have pan out and are actually worth keeping how will the team be able to resign guys that have their contracts expire at the same time?

It seems like (I guess) a good problem to have with several starters playing 3-4 years to contribute or excel but then …?

Just curious so don't hate on me lol
Imagine they all panned out. That would probably mean our scouting department and GM were excellent. So you prioritize and resign certain players, especially at positions like QB, DE and CB, and you trade others hopefully. But you use those picks gained to fill holes back in, knowing you have a great scouting department and GM that can get it done. Not going to happen, but even theoretically hitting on almost all of your picks means you should be able to continue picking well.
 
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