Question regarding Bench press reps???

[Mike13]

I'm not all that concerned. On a guy built like Wright, strength and size are pretty easy to add. The 4.97 40 was pretty impressive.

Whats the average 40 time for a DT?

 

[Brett Tessler]

Whats the average 40 time for a DT?

Anywhere between 4.9 & 5.25 is acceptable. He reminds me alot of a D-Tackle I represented out of Virginia a few years back... Big, fast, weak underachiever.

 

[Zeke0123]

Anywhere between 4.9 & 5.25 is acceptable. He reminds me alot of a D-Tackle I represented out of Virginia a few years back... Big, fast, weak underachiever.

thats the only red flag I need to not want him here.

 

[ckparrothead]

Yeah, MD brought up what he's done on the field, and thats precisely the problem...not much. He's started two games so far but he was behind Patterson and Cody, both are very good. So for starters, people are excusing his not starting because of Patterson and Cody, and judging his value based in large part on "potential" which is based on his physical stature and his speed and agility.

 

[Dphins4me]

You're missing the point. If his long arms are putting him at a disadvantage for upper body strength, then he's also probably not all that suited to the nose tackle or defensive tackle position either. In that case, he should lose weight and try to be a defensive end.

The one factor you are missing is in football its play for a few sec then rest.

Doing bench to judge strength is continous.

Wright probably does need to get stronger, but I'm not concerned about the reps. I'm more concerned about the modivation.

 

[Surferosa]

Anywhere between 4.9 & 5.25 is acceptable. He reminds me alot of a D-Tackle I represented out of Virginia a few years back... Big, fast, weak underachiever.

Correct me if Im wrong, but I always thought anything under 5 is exceptional for a 300+ pound DT.

 

[Surferosa]

Just to clarify, not ALL DT's have great bench numbers. Marcus Stroud benched 225 only 21 times (amongst the lowest in his class for a DT), and he was still a high first round pick and is widely considered to be a top 5 DT today. Albert Haynesworth, who is 6"5', only benched 225 17 times yet was still a top 15 pick - and many thought he would go even HIGHER.

If Wright benched 225 30 times and STILL ran a 4.97 at 329 pounds, his workout grades would warrant a first round selection. And were obviously not looking at him as a first round pick - so it makes sense that he has some flaws in his game/ability.

 

[muscle979]

It means his strength is below averave. A man his size who wants to get in an NFL game and push around other men his size for 60 minutes should be able to at least do the average. The good news is, thats something thats pretty easy to work on.

 

[Brett Tessler]

Correct me if Im wrong, but I always thought anything under 5 is exceptional for a 300+ pound DT.

It is. Some guys just have great natural speed. It's too bad he didn't get himself ready for the rest of his workout so he could have been a top pick.

 

[PhinstiGator]

... But then I got to checking my draft books and noted a number of outstanding players have had low numbers in the past and it was often stated that guys with long arms have trouble with this drill...

Very true. A little guy like midget RB Darren Sproles (5' 7" ish) was able to throw the bar up about 23 reps.

A longer armed fellow like JT stinks at the bench press (and he hates it). But the boy can deliver a powerful punch...even with his thinner frame.

Unfortunately, Wright had a bad bench day. Probably directly relates to his overall shape (level of endurance). I expect him to give it another try before the supplemental. Fortunately, DT is a position of heavy rotation on this team.

 

[flintsilver7]

Regardless of whether or not an individual has long arms, a weak bench press is indicative of less upper body strength. Long arms do cause some increased difficulties in benching, but usually this can be compensated with a wider grip if nothing else. Besides, Wright certainly isn't the first defensive lineman with long arms, so this raises a red flag for me.

As somebody who's been strength training for about 12 years, I think 225 for 16 at a body weight of 330 is troublesome for somebody who wants to be a professional athlete. At 5'11", 190, with a basically average frame (medium shoulders, average-length arms) I can bench 225 for 24. I'd certainly expect any defensive lineman to be able to top that. Most blockers - fullbacks and linemen, for example - do at least in the mid-20s.

 

[Surferosa]

I have to imagine that upper body strength is something that can be worked on.

 

[razorphin]

Here we go again, tall wimps making excuses for being weak. Weight is weight, if you can push it you can, if you can't just shut up and admit that you are a tall string bean bitc###.