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Questions that Still Need to be Answered with Philbin Hire...

Hayden Fox

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Let me first state for the historical record I wanted Brian Billick initially as HC and totally supported the idea of Jeff Fisher. Upon Fisher spurning the Fins, Mike McCoy was a great candidate IMO.

Joe Philbin's hire does not bother me. I could think of worse candidates such as Jim Haslett and Brian Schottenheimer.

However, I still have some issues that need to be resolved or answered.

1. Who's pick was this? How much did Ross want Philbin? How much did Ireland want McCoy? How much of a tussle was there?

2. Can Ireland work with Philbin?

2. Did McCoy turn off the team by not wanting Bowles as DC? If that is true, this is a very troubling development. One, it means McCoy was the preferred candidate. Two, why does the FO insist on micromanaging coaching matters.

3. Who is on Philbin's Staff? I think it is naive to think that ALL the Green Bay staff will head south. Tom Clements I do not believe comes to Miami. Everyone seems convinced he is on his way. Why? The Fins are known as a dysfunctional organization and Clements can move into the OC role in Green Bay. The same for various defensive coaches. The truth is Green Bay will probably give a parting gift of a few coaches, but not major coaches like Clements and Winston Moss.

Does Brad Childress come as OC? Brian Schottenheimer? Does Eric Mangini come as DC in that he is a 3-4 guy? Does Philbin have neophyte coordinators? LOTS OF QUESTIONS HERE...

4. Will Matt Flynn come to Miami? The Matt Flynn connection. I do not think you hire a coach just because he might be able to deliver a coach. With that being said, Philbin and the Fins better deliver Flynn. If Flynn is not signed, this selection is highly questionable. McCoy or Daboll with Matt Moore is a better situation along with McCoy instructing RGIII.

5. What kind of coach is Philbin? I remember Chris Mortenson saying a few weeks ago that a respected and longtime member of the Packers compared Philbin to Joe Gibbs in his structure and organization...high praise that I love to hear. However, I have not seen it one way or the other.

6. Is Philbin a leader of men? This what I want to know. Can he make this team mentally tough? Can he get the most out of their talent and mask weaknesses? Is he articulate enough to explain the vision of the team going forward?

I REALLY wish him luck. What a range of emotions the Philbin Family must be feeling. I want to see how these questions are answered in the coming weeks. The Miami Dolphins must return to relevance and hopefully Joe Philbin can lead that charge.
 
I think the answer to all six questions is:

We're going to find out. :)
 
IF, IF, IF he can hire a solid staff and get Matt Flynn, I think the Fins are a very interesting team with a chance to be successful.

However, if they fall short on these, the pick could be disastrous.
 
Daytona Fin said:
just wait till his press conference, you'll love him
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Imagine if you passed on another Mike Tomlin (which we did) or Rex Ryan (which we did) by going away from Mike McCoy or Todd Bowles...let alone not even interviewing Chud.

So instead of being sarcastic, you better hope that Joe Philbin is a solid hire.
 
Hayden Fox said:
Imagine if you passed on another Mike Tomlin (which we did) or Rex Ryan (which we did) by going away from Mike McCoy or Todd Bowles...let alone not even interviewing Chud.

So instead of being sarcastic, you better hope that Joe Philbin is a solid hire.
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but what if we got the next mccarthy or payton? it works both ways lol
 
Hayden Fox said:
Let me first state for the historical record I wanted Brian Billick initially as HC and totally supported the idea of Jeff Fisher. Upon Fisher spurning the Fins, Mike McCoy was a great candidate IMO.

Joe Philbin's hire does not bother me. I could think of worse candidates such as Jim Haslett and Brian Schottenheimer.

However, I still have some issues that need to be resolved or answered.

1. Who's pick was this? How much did Ross want Philbin? How much did Ireland want McCoy? How much of a tussle was there?

2. Can Ireland work with Philbin?

2. Did McCoy turn off the team by not wanting Bowles as DC? If that is true, this is a very troubling development. One, it means McCoy was the preferred candidate. Two, why does the FO insist on micromanaging coaching matters.

3. Who is on Philbin's Staff? I think it is naive to think that ALL the Green Bay staff will head south. Tom Clements I do not believe comes to Miami. Everyone seems convinced he is on his way. Why? The Fins are known as a dysfunctional organization and Clements can move into the OC role in Green Bay. The same for various defensive coaches. The truth is Green Bay will probably give a parting gift of a few coaches, but not major coaches like Clements and Winston Moss.

Does Brad Childress come as OC? Brian Schottenheimer? Does Eric Mangini come as DC in that he is a 3-4 guy? Does Philbin have neophyte coordinators? LOTS OF QUESTIONS HERE...

4. Will Matt Flynn come to Miami? The Matt Flynn connection. I do not think you hire a coach just because he might be able to deliver a coach. With that being said, Philbin and the Fins better deliver Flynn. If Flynn is not signed, this selection is highly questionable. McCoy or Daboll with Matt Moore is a better situation along with McCoy instructing RGIII.

5. What kind of coach is Philbin? I remember Chris Mortenson saying a few weeks ago that a respected and longtime member of the Packers compared Philbin to Joe Gibbs in his structure and organization...high praise that I love to hear. However, I have not seen it one way or the other.

6. Is Philbin a leader of men? This what I want to know. Can he make this team mentally tough? Can he get the most out of their talent and mask weaknesses? Is he articulate enough to explain the vision of the team going forward?

I REALLY wish him luck. What a range of emotions the Philbin Family must be feeling. I want to see how these questions are answered in the coming weeks. The Miami Dolphins must return to relevance and hopefully Joe Philbin can lead that charge.
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ask Omar Kelly
 
I believe at of all the candidates Philbin was the coach that would bring buzz and had the most promise. I am excited with the new hire. Those are all legit questions and it will be good for us fans to track our beloved team this off-season. Go fins!
 
Hayden Fox said:
However, I still have some issues that need to be resolved or answered.

1. Who's pick was this? How much did Ross want Philbin? How much did Ireland want McCoy? How much of a tussle was there?
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I wondered as well, but per Sun Sentinel, it was via "search committee", thus via voting / not a sole Ross pick.
 
Hayden Fox said:
True...very true. It comes down to....drum roll....his QUARTERBACK.

I wish the guy luck.
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yes i agree, it will come down to whether he finds a QB... most coaches hinged on whether they get a franchise QB.... heck most packers fans were wanting mccarthy fired and favre showed up his last season in GB and did well and then rodgers came along...
 
MiZFiT said:
Why are you so against Philbin. You'd rather Bowles than Philbin? :bobdole:
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Where did I ever say I was against Philbin? Where are you reading it that? I never hammered the guy. Check all my posts my friend.

I brought issues to light regarding his candidacy over the last few weeks and continue to going forward. Just because I supported other candidates does not make me a "Philbin Hater".
 
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