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Quickest Release in the game -- Joey Harrington?

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Joey Harrington info
http://www.nflplayers.com/players/player.aspx?id=32979
"Has been sacked only 17 times in his 30 NFL games for the lowest sack-per-passing attempt percentage in NFL history (17 sacks/1,000 attempts for 1.70%)"

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/f...dolphins-front
"Even as a rookie, he was almost impossible to sack," said Simms, a 15-year NFL veteran and Super Bowl XXI MVP. "Sometimes, and I've done a few games he's played, he's dropping back and I want to go, 'Slow down. Hold it just a little longer.' It is a tremendous asset but it also can get you in trouble." -- Phil Simms
 
maybe that y the wr drop the ball all the time.....they are surpise he can throw it sooo hard and fast and quick:confused:
 
id rather him take a sack or two instead of throwing a bad pass to get rid of the ball and having it possibly intercepted...
 
He didn't start getting sacked in Detroit till merri I have no clue ooochi made him hang on the ball longer for the down field routes to come free which they very seldon ever did. There is only one WR in Detroit that was on the roster why Harrignton was there. Roy Williams and he is a stud, but the rest are gone, gone gone. That should tell a poretty good story right there about Harringtons years in Detroit.
 
arsenal said:
id rather him take a sack or two instead of throwing a bad pass to get rid of the ball and having it possibly intercepted...
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Agreed...his decision making is a bit suspect, so taking more time wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
He does get rid of the ball quickly. I suspect a lot of that has to do with the fact that the guy really doesn't want to get hit. Joey has the physical tools in my opinion to get it done, and he's smart as well. However, the really good ones are courageous and take the hits they need to take. Not sure Joey falls into this category.
 
phinman1 said:
I suspect a lot of that has to do with the fact that the guy really doesn't want to get hit.
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And you suspect that because...? My observation says you couldn't be more wrong about that. A QB is a lot more vulnerable right after he's let go of the ball than he is on the typical sack. Harrington took a load of that kind of hit in Detroit. If he was afraid of the hits he'd have curled up and taken the sack more often.

Harrington is plenty tough enough. I've seen him play in a number of games where he got hit hard on darn near every play and he never did anything but get up and go back for the next one.
 
Nah, quickest release belongs to Phil Rivers. Joey just goes through his progressions very quickly, which isn't necessarily a good thing. Sometimes, I think he get's a head of himself.
 
He took a BIG hit in the Jets game, completed the pass too, was a little slow to get up but no worse for the wear. Do you guys actually watch these games?
 
footballphin said:
And you suspect that because...? My observation says you couldn't be more wrong about that. A QB is a lot more vulnerable right after he's let go of the ball than he is on the typical sack. Harrington took a load of that kind of hit in Detroit. If he was afraid of the hits he'd have curled up and taken the sack more often.

Harrington is plenty tough enough. I've seen him play in a number of games where he got hit hard on darn near every play and he never did anything but get up and go back for the next one.
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You have never heard of the phrase "stays in the pocket and takes the hit"? The longer the QB has the ball, the longer he is the primary target of the defense. Not rocket science.

This is especially so with the interpretation of the rules today. If a QB gets rid of the ball, he is almost off limits to any type of late hit.

Now, my premise could be wrong, and admittedly I haven't seen Joey a lot outside of a Dolphin uniform. He just seems like that type of QB to me. I hope I turn out wrong trust me.
 
bluehaze said:
He took a BIG hit in the Jets game, completed the pass too, was a little slow to get up but no worse for the wear. Do you guys actually watch these games?
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Oh, so Joey takes one hit and that shatters my point? Again, I proposed this as a possibility, not fact.
 
Harrington has Brett Favre durability. He wasn't getting sacked his first two years, but he was getting hit. Second two years he got hit a lot. He still got right up and went right back to work. He has an arm, and good touch on the short *and* deep routes. You haven't seen much work on the deep route here yet, but he can air it out. His problem is not in missing the target; he does put the ball right on the money. The problem on those deep picks he has had are decision making errors--he shouldn't have thrown that ball in the first place. A little more work and some COMPETENT coaching (something we haven't had in as long as I can remember) and he will be a serviceable QB, possibly even good.
 
phinman1 said:
Oh, so Joey takes one hit and that shatters my point? Again, I proposed this as a possibility, not fact.
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So far he has hung in there as long as he can even taking a hit to get a pass off. So yes your point is pretty much pointless at this point :lol:
 
Knowing this about Joey now, I think its was a real crappy decision to let CPep even start the season if u know the Line wasn't geling right away and Joey was an NFL record holder in amount of sacks taken. I know Nick wanted his franchise QB in for game 1, but this just seems to make sense to let Joey start the season and let Pep finish rehabbing the knee.
 
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