that's a message to the dolphins brass cam/randy this is your biggest test either grab the spotlight or get ready for a pink slip as soon as bill cowher's daughter graduates from school.....don't be like the past dolphin coaches who did nothing to improve at qb but trade draft picks after draft picks and never draft a kid out of college.....so even if it means trading up into the number 2 spot and make a trade with the lions who i believe want to unload the number 2 pick denver almost pulled it off in march but it fell through..a first round pick in 2008 will make it happen..but then again if raiders take johnson then are chances increase bigtime..where quinn could fall to skins at 6 we move up and it only costs according to the draft chart our 1st and 3rd round picks in 2007 and i'd throw in a late 2008 for good measure.bottomline even with lemon culpepper aboard green on his way this team needs a franchise QB that will lead us for 10-15 years.....and BRADY QUINN IS THAT GUY MAKE QUINN A FIN OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quinn must be a fin!
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Ok, so we know you want Quinn. What's the deal with "or else", "pink slip" and "hell to pay" comments? I'm sure Cam & Randy care about what OhioBryan thinks. :rolleyes2 Besides, what other Dolphin coaches in say, the last 20 years have gotten the pink slip? Wanny was on his way but didn't. Shula? No. Johnson? No. Saban? No. Are you going to personally fire them? :shakeno:
Can you just state your opinions without all the extra nonsense?
Ok, so we know you want Quinn. What's the deal with "or else", "pink slip" and "hell to pay" comments? I'm sure Cam & Randy care about what OhioBryan thinks. :rolleyes2 Besides, what other Dolphin coaches in say, the last 20 years have gotten the pink slip? Wanny was on his way but didn't. Shula? No. Johnson? No. Saban? No. Are you going to personally fire them? :shakeno:
Can you just state your opinions without all the extra nonsense?
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I want Quinn probably as much as anyone else on this site, but rational thinking must prevail here. We all know we need a QB but we can't sell the farm to get one. If Quinn gets within our reach where we can get him at a reasonable price thats great but we can't give up the draft for the sake of one position. Hopefully we have seen the last of that with this franchise. It seems like the Dolphins have given away enough draft picks to make up a whole team. Hopefully we get Quinn but if we don't I am sure Mueller and Cam will do something to address the situation.
Have you seen The Sporting News rating on Quinn. It is a third round pick. They compare him to Joey Harrington. Then they ask him who he is like and he says he has similarities to Tom Brady. He is a guy who scares me because if he is a bust even at pick nine it will take a while to recover.
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if this guy is as good as he says and somewhat looks then we need to take the chance new england has tom brady without him they would be garbage all we need is a qb and a decent line too.
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You are right about that. Everyone talks about Bellicheck being a genius but his genius (and the Dolphins shortcomings) are linked to one position. Bellicheck is a genius because of Brady and the Dolphins havent done much recently because their quarterbacks suck.
And Daunte is not the answer. Even when he was good he made too many mistakes.
You are right about that. Everyone talks about Bellicheck being a genius but his genius (and the Dolphins shortcomings) are linked to one position. Bellicheck is a genius because of Brady and the Dolphins havent done much recently because their quarterbacks suck.
And Daunte is not the answer. Even when he was good he made too many mistakes.
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The Vikings will snatch him... watch
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He he would, that's what actual style of draft obligates.
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IF The Browns and Lions dont bite to draft Quinn!!! Childress will drool and snatch him
You don't see Calvin Johnson, Jamarcus Russell, or Joe Thomas on every radio show possible. In fact I don't remember anyone in recent years who who has been on as many radio shows as Brady Quinn has recently.
Spot on dude. I'd LOVE to get Quinn, friggin' LOVE it. I've never wanted this organization to draft a player MORE that I want them to draft Quinn. However, I do NOT want to go back to the old ways of giving up picks in future drafts and all that to do it, we just cant afford that anymore. Let's just keep our fingers crossed that one of two things happen:
1 - Quinn falls past Cleveland and puts us in prime position to move ahead of the Vikings and go to the #6 spot where Washington sits. As long he gets passed Cleveland he is as good as ours. Washington doesn't have another pick until round FIVE, so they obviously aren't going to turn down extra picks to stay at #6 when they could easily probably get whomever they are looking at 3 picks later with the #9. Even IF the Vikes want Quinn (I doubt they WANT him, but I don't doubt they'd TAKE him if he were there at #7) we can offer more to move up to #6 than they can. If they use the value chart they'd offer the #7 and something like a 4th and 6th since it is only 100 value difference, but we would offer the #9 and either our 3rd rounder or second 2nd rounder. I'm thinkin if you have no picks after the 1st round until the FIFTH round, you'd want another first day pick over another one or 2 second day picks.
2 - By some miracle we make a trade with the Lions that has us keeping all the 2008 draft picks and only giving up both 2nds (or a 2nd and 3rd) and Daunte. It seems far fetched, since the value doesn't add up on the chart, but it depends on how muc they value Daunte. I've seen crazier things, so while I am not even really considering this as a plausible option, I'm still gonna throw it out there as food for thought.
I HAVE seen the Sporting News, and a minute into reading it I realized it was absolute CRAP and tossed it out. Brady as a 3rd round QB but Russell and Kolb as first rounders and NOBODY worthy of a 2nd round choice?
Brady rated something like a 5.4 but Russell rated as a high 8.something if I remember correctly? They rated Russell higher than Marino, Elway, Montana, and Aikman (they had a feature awhile back where they rated HoF QBs). Tell me, do you think Russell is better than those four QBs, or even has the SLIGHTEST chance of making that true?
They also have Quinn dropping to #23 in the mock. Do you HONESTLY think we would pass on him at #9, let alone Jacksonville at #17, or even Green Bay at #16 since they don't seem very pleased with Aaron Rodgers. Also, Buffalo and St. Louis could even take a shot at him to compete with Losman and Bulger respectively. No way Quinn falls out of the top 10, let alone all the way to #23
Their mock also has us taking Paul Posluszny at #9 if I remember correctly, and that is way too high for him.
The entire guide is a joke, worst "Draft Guide" I have ever seen.
This post contradicts your very next post that says Quinn still scares you. On one hand, you say Bellicheck isn't a genius it's all Tom Brady, yet the other hand you say you don't trust Quinn, when he was developed by the same guy who developed Brady, and can make every throw Brady can and has run every play Brady has, not to mention has watched ALL the footage on Brady and talked to him multiple times a week for 2 years. The kid is basically the next Tom Brady judging by his work ethic and preparation in addition to the offense he spent 2 years mastering and who taught it to him.
I agree that Bellick isn't the genius everyone thinks he is (hence him not going back to the Super Bowl after Weis and Crennel left) and he wouldn't have much of the success he is credited for if Tom Brady weren't there (god it KILLS me to admitt that), but that's as far as I go, because I see Quinn being a carbon copy of Brady. And before everyone jumps down my throat, I am NOT saying Quinn will be as good as or better than Tom Brady (although I think he has a great chance TO be), I am merely stating that he will have similar playing style and tendancies and work ethic to Tom Brady.
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The main problem is comparing Brady to Quinn just doesn't work....Brady was a rare case of teams missing the mark on him during the draft...him being a 6th round pick while Quinn isn't a unknown or a missed player...and which player would you rather have...Brady that won important games...or Quinn that didn't?
At one point, Brady hired a sports psychologist to help him cope with frustration and anxiety and even considered transferring, frustrated by what seemed like a lack of opportunity.[4] Brady battled for the first string quarterback position with Drew Henson and ultimately started every game in the 1998 and 1999 seasons under Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr. During his first full year as starter, he set Michigan's record for most completions in a season (214). [5] He was All-Big Ten both seasons and team captain his senior year. The Wolverines won 20 of 25 games when Brady started and shared the Big Ten Conference title in 1998. Brady capped that season off with a win over Arkansas in the Citrus Bowl. In the 1999 season, Brady led Michigan to an overtime win in the Orange Bowl over Alabama, throwing for 369 yards and four touchdowns.
How do you miss a player like that?
I'm comparing them in terms of NFL playing style, saying I think Quinn will play similar to Brady in the NFL. I'm not comparing their college careers or drafts or anything, just that they are similar players.
But again, QUINN didn't "not win" important games, his TEAM didn't. We have yet to see what Quinn can do with an NFL team around him. Brady had successful teams in Michigan and broke records, Quinn didn't, and broke records. I just see them as very similar players who have a completely different path getting into the NFL but will be very similar in it. I'm not saying Quinn will be as good as Bray, I'm not saying he WON'T be, I'm simply stating that I see their NFL playing styles being very similar, especially given Quinn was coached on college on the offense Weis taught Brady in the pros.
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