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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-marvez101805,0,7627770.column?coll=sfla-dolphins-front
That Brown and Williams could draw attention to help their teammates get open is one of the positives of using both tailbacks simultaneously. But not even their presence could help the Dolphins make headway against Tampa Bay's top-ranked run defense.

In fact, Williams and Brown were used more as receivers (eight plays) than runners (three). Brown lined up as a wide receiver on five plays and as the up-back in an offset I-formation on five others. Williams was deployed in a traditional tailback role on every play.

Williams had two runs for 6 yards, including a fake reverse with Brown that failed to fool the Buccaneers' defense and netted a 2-yard gain. Williams also caught four of his team-high six passes for 12 yards.

Brown had only one of his nine carries while playing with Williams and was stuffed for no gain.
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Marvez sounds down on R & R, but I didn't see ONE play in the game that used these guys the way I think they'd best be used together. Here are three I'd like to see:

1) Ronnie lines up in the slot, cracks back on the OLB for a second, and then twirls into the slot to catch a pass after Ricky gets a fake handoff to draw up the LBs.

2) Ronnie and Ricky are in a pro set, both run screens toward the sideline, Frerotte pump fakes to one sideline and then spins and throws to the other, where either Ricky or Ronnie is stationed with blockers out in front. Get that fast D moving one way and then burn them the other.

3) Ronnie lines up in the backfield, motions to the slot, and catches a pass downfield -- plain and simple.

Obviously there are MANY more possibilities, but I was pretty disappointed with the lack of creativity I saw in the Bucs game. The reverse play was creative, but it doesn't use either player's unique strengths to our advantage. Any player can take that handoff from Ricky on the reverse -- not any player can crack back on an OLB from the slot and knock him down. And not any player can line up in the backfield and then either stay there and block or move out to the slot and run a pattern downfield.

If we're gonna run this R & R thing, let's at least use these players' unique capabilities in doing it.
 
sigh.



they played one game against the #1 ranked run defense, and ricky got hurt, yet theyre still a dud. some people, i swear...
 
DevilElias26 said:
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they played one game against the #1 ranked run defense, and ricky got hurt, yet theyre still a dud. some people, i swear...
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If you're talking about Alex Marvez as "some people," fine, because he wrote the article, not me. I think it can be FAR more than a dud if it's done right.
 
Give them time. The system should work given a chance. We were also trying to do something new against the best defense in the NFL. Not an easy thing to do. In a couple of weeks everything should begin to come together.
 
Yeah, those were the worst 14 carries i ever saw. I say we cut them both and trade a 1st rounder for Marshall Faulk! (sense the sarcasm?)
 
shouright said:
If you're talking about Alex Marvez as "some people," fine, because he wrote the article, not me. I think it can be FAR more than a dud if it's done right.
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yeah thats who i was talking about
 
opfinistic said:
:shakeno:

Relax...take a deep breath...picture a safe place...it's one game.
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Relax, take a deep breath, read the whole thread instead of just the title.
 
Give them the ball more than 14 times. You would think someone thats only job is to watch and analize sports would know better than to print something so stupid. He should know where the proper blame should go and it's not Ronnie or Rickys fault.
 
whoever thinks R&R are duds just flat out have no knowledge of football. It was Ricky's 1st game back after his smoking adventure. As a few more games go by, Ricky will return to prime form. Ronnie is a rookie and is starting to improve with each carry and every time he's on the field. we played the #1 D in the NFL. chill out, R&R will be rolling through defenses as long as their given the right amount of carries and Gus does not have to throw the ball 42 times. There's always huge hype of how great Big Ben is in Pittsburgh. Without a doubt, he re-adjusted to the NFL real quick and a great player. But at the same time, I dont know if you guys realize, he throws the ball the fewest times out of any starting QB in the league. Yes, he makes his throws count but he isnt put into the positions where he has to squeeze a ball in between two defenders 40 times a game.
 
Bellson said:
whoever thinks R&R are duds just flat out have no knowledge of football. It was Ricky's 1st game back after his smoking adventure. As a few more games go by, Ricky will return to prime form. Ronnie is a rookie and is starting to improve with each carry and every time he's on the field. we played the #1 D in the NFL. chill out, R&R will be rolling through defenses as long as their given the right amount of carries and Gus does not have to throw the ball 42 times. There's always huge hype of how great Big Ben is in Pittsburgh. Without a doubt, he re-adjusted to the NFL real quick and a great player. But at the same time, I dont know if you guys realize, he throws the ball the fewest times out of any starting QB in the league. Yes, he makes his throws count but he isnt put into the positions where he has to squeeze a ball in between two defenders 40 times a game.
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You are right on all points. Great post.
 
I find it interesting that this article raised the same point that I did yesterday. They kept putting Morris in on third and long.

I don't think that you guys should be to upset yet though. Lets see how R&R do agaisnt a D that doesn't match with you up as well as we do.
 
The main poster is right, he does not mean that they are a bust like other people have been saying. He is saying that it is dissappointing how they were used. How the playcalling went, and that we are not taking advantage of something that should be sweet. And that is very true. It does not mean that they can't be special, but it does mean that it looks like the coaching staff has not found a way to use it.
 
NawlinsBucFan said:
I find it interesting that this article raised the same point that I did yesterday. They kept putting Morris in on third and long.

I don't think that you guys should be to upset yet though. Lets see how R&R do agaisnt a D that doesn't match with you up as well as we do.
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Well with some of the people on this board, you'd think Tampa has the worst D in the league :shakeno:
 
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