ILPhinFan88
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Yeah trade JT thats the answer. :shakeno:
BLITZKRIEG said:Does anyone here ever think about the future?? How about remembering the fact that this team hasn't made the post-season in 6 years??...
Regardless of how great Taylor / Thomas are, the results in Miami have remained the same year after year. When it all comes down to it, we're still not good enough to contend with the top teams in the league....
Both sides of the ball need to be rebuilt, and if trading off a couple of old veterans like Taylor / Thomas can produce us some quality draft picks, it's time to seriously consider doing it before they lose their current worth. In another year or two, who knows if they'll have anything left?? If it's going to be done, this is the year it needs to happen....
I say trade them while we can. Saban needs to stockpile as many draft picks as he can get from here on out. Let the rebuilding process begin!!!....
PHINZ RULE!!!!
BLITZKRIEG said:Does anyone here ever think about the future?? How about remembering the fact that this team hasn't made the post-season in 6 years??...
Regardless of how great Taylor / Thomas are, the results in Miami have remained the same year after year. When it all comes down to it, we're still not good enough to contend with the top teams in the league....
Both sides of the ball need to be rebuilt, and if trading off a couple of old veterans like Taylor / Thomas can produce us some quality draft picks, it's time to seriously consider doing it before they lose their current worth. In another year or two, who knows if they'll have anything left?? If it's going to be done, this is the year it needs to happen....
I say trade them while we can. Saban needs to stockpile as many draft picks as he can get from here on out. Let the rebuilding process begin!!!....
PHINZ RULE!!!!
fishypete said:Last year I would have traded Taylor....not so sure he would be trade bait now....because of age.....and what teams would trade a first round pick for him....perhaps one that figures they are one or two players away from being a potential playoff team....perhaps K.C. or Denver.
And even IF we could trade him for a first rounder....I wonder IF Saban would get a real player that would make the team better now....and not have to sit on the bench for half the next season....or just be another dud of a pick.
BLITZKRIEG said:Does anyone here ever think about the future?? How about remembering the fact that this team hasn't made the post-season in 6 years??...
Regardless of how great Taylor / Thomas are, the results in Miami have remained the same year after year. When it all comes down to it, we're still not good enough to contend with the top teams in the league....
Both sides of the ball need to be rebuilt, and if trading off a couple of old veterans like Taylor / Thomas can produce us some quality draft picks, it's time to seriously consider doing it before they lose their current worth. In another year or two, who knows if they'll have anything left?? If it's going to be done, this is the year it needs to happen....
I say trade them while we can. Saban needs to stockpile as many draft picks as he can get from here on out. Let the rebuilding process begin!!!....
PHINZ RULE!!!!
BLITZKRIEG said:Does anyone here ever think about the future?? How about remembering the fact that this team hasn't made the post-season in 6 years??...
So your solution is to make sure we don't make the playoffs for 12 years?
Regardless of how great Taylor / Thomas are, the results in Miami have remained the same year after year. When it all comes down to it, we're still not good enough to contend with the top teams in the league....
We were good enough to destroy the Bears in Chicago, beat up KC, and shut out the Pats. We were pretty bad at being consistent.
Both sides of the ball need to be rebuilt, and if trading off a couple of old veterans like Taylor / Thomas can produce us some quality draft picks, it's time to seriously consider doing it before they lose their current worth. In another year or two, who knows if they'll have anything left?? If it's going to be done, this is the year it needs to happen....
Yeah..it is time we rebuild the #2 ranked defense. To be honest..that is where I should have stopped reading this thread.
I say trade them while we can. Saban needs to stockpile as many draft picks as he can get from here on out. Let the rebuilding process begin!!!....
Yeah..ahhhh..draft picks. We all know that in Madden you get automatic 65 ovr guys in the first round...let's get 4 of them. Problem solved.
PHINZ RULE!!!!
emocomputerjock said:to trade away the best player on our defense (which is the *only* bright spot on this team) would hurt us more in the end.
BLITZKRIEG said:Nobody knows that. With the draft picks we'd receive in return, we could end up with two Taylors for all we know. The NFL drafts are full of future Pro Bowl talent, and we need to start thinking about drafting some of them for the future sake of this franchise....
I don't think keeping Taylor / Thomas around another two years is going to get us any further than we are today. I think we'd be better off using them to our advantage, and stockpiling picks. That's just my opinion....
PHINZ RULE!!!!
So your solution is to make sure we don't make the playoffs for 12 years?
We were good enough to destroy the Bears in Chicago, beat up KC, and shut out the Pats. We were pretty bad at being consistent.
Yeah..it is time we rebuild the #2 ranked defense. To be honest..that is where I should have stopped reading this thread.
Yeah..ahhhh..draft picks. We all know that in Madden you get automatic 65 ovr guys in the first round...let's get 4 of them. Problem solved.
.BLITZKRIEG said:Where did I ever say that?? Is comprehension of reading a problem for you??....
You want to weaken the team..thus..that is why I said that. My reading comprehension is fine.
Today, sitting at 6-8, that's not good / consistant enough. Those early season meltdowns ruined our chances this year, and it took about half a season before the defense even showed up in my opinion. Bottom line : They still have their good / bad games, just like they always have.....
You just repeated what I said. Those early season meltdowns occured on the offensive side of the ball for the most part. In fact..TRY to blame our defense for the Buffalo loss early, and the texans loss as well. When you give up 17 points or less...the defense did it's job.
It's because you're too close minded, and think trading away two of our standout players will ruin our chances going into "next year". Well let me ask you this, what happens when next year comes and goes, and we're still sitting at home come the playoffs??....
I am not being close minded. I am being realistic. When you trade away two guys that make a unit a top unit in the nfl and the only reason we win games it does ruin orur chances going into next year. That's like the Colts trading Peyton to improve their defense.
Then what?? They both retire, and we get nothing on return, that's what....
Everybody retires. Getting 3 more years of production from each is better than taking a gamble in the draft. And WHO says that we would get anything spectacular anyway for them?
Draft picks are the future foundation of every team in the NFL. Without them, you have nothing to build with. I don't play Madden.....
Exactly...that is why we drafted guys like Taylor and Thomas...those draft picks are still paying off. let's do that again. We have picks to do it with...neither guy was a 1st round pick.
PHINZ RULE!!!!
They don't. The Pats do for now.
You want to weaken the team..thus..that is why I said that. My reading comprehension is fine.
Those early season meltdowns occured on the offensive side of the ball for the most part. In fact..TRY to blame our defense for the Buffalo loss early, and the texans loss as well. When you give up 17 points or less...the defense did it's job.
I am not being close minded. I am being realistic. When you trade away two guys that make a unit a top unit in the nfl and the only reason we win games it does ruin orur chances going into next year. That's like the Colts trading Peyton to improve their defense.
Everybody retires. Getting 3 more years of production from each is better than taking a gamble in the draft. And WHO says that we would get anything spectacular anyway for them?
Exactly...that is why we drafted guys like Taylor and Thomas...those draft picks are still paying off. let's do that again. We have picks to do it with...neither guy was a 1st round pick.
BLITZKRIEG said:We may be weakened by the loss of Taylor / Thomas, but only for the sole purpose of bringing in younger / cheaper talent. Who's to say those guys can never be replaced??...