Raekwon Mcmillan??

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  1. DolfanISS

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    I don't want to start a 1 preseason game overreaction thread as at the end of the day last nights game was practice. I'm nervous about some of the things I'm reading about Raekwon McMillan even more so than I seen in the game last night and some posters on here seem really high on him so I want some convincing.

    Every pre draft scouting report of seen projected him as an average NFL starter at SAM yet some feel he's the answer at MIKE, why is this?

    Every pre draft scouting report I've seen says he struggles in coverage yet some seem to be expecting him to be paired with Kiko in the nickel, why is this?

    If you read Raekwon's scouting report, then read Jerome Baker's would you not be more excited about Baker?

    We need this guy to be as advertised on Finheaven or our LB unit will be screwed. Why do folks think he will?
     
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    I have no idea why he's being touted as this key ingredient when we haven't even seen the guy in action. I stated that before, hopefully he's a dog but time will tell
     
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    I think he has a nice taste in cars based upon the halftime story on him.
     
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    Perhaps link a few pre draft reports that you are seeing. Every is such a strong word and gets over used quite often.

    I think Raekwon has a lot to prove after suffering a season ending injury as a rookie. He made his mark as a MLB at Ohio State which isn't easy. Expectations are going to be high for him but he has to balance being careful with his knee and over extending himself to where it might cause a setback.
     
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    You're right, every is a strong word but I haven't found one that touts his coverage skills yet some seem shocked he's not paired with Kiko as the Nickel:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/raekwon-mcmillan?id=2558070

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-pff-scouting-report-raekwon-mcmillan-ilb-ohio-state

    Can anyone find a scouting report that states McMillan has coverage skills?
     
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    He misread a couple of plays and took bad angles. It happens. The question is how quickly can he get coached up, and how much work will he put into the film room to learn from the errors. I'm not going to over react to any player good or bad over the first preseason game.
     
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    More than McMillian, I would start to worry about the interior of the DL..Yikes!
     
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    Considering it was his first action at MLB in the pros and the return from an injury like that, his head was probably spinning. Hopefully the confidence will come soon
     
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    I never remember reading about him as a coverage guy, I remember him being touted as a MLB who was very good against the run, was intelligent to make the defensive calls, and a great leader. If he can stop the run consistently I'll be happy.
     
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    I think the scouting reports become less relevant when he comes into the facility and demonstrates his talent, ability, and desire before your very eyes.

    That is what he did last year as a rookie. He came in and grabbed that spot.

    That's why the staff is so high on him. Not really concerned about what the college-tape-watching gurus say about his time at Ohio State.
     
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    I don't recall anyone slating him in at coverage in the nickel, that's moreso Baker's future job. Raekwon is what he is. He's going to be a solid, steady eddie for a while.
     
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    I agree 100% but I do see folks expecting him to be on the field in nickel.
     
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    Having Reshad right behind him should really help during the regular season. I hope it was just him learning to trust his instincts after such a long time off the field, could take a few weeks. We do need him to be productive this year though.
     
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    McMillan had yet to taste what it feels to play LB in the NFL, add to that he is coming back from a serious injury, so it may take a few games before he starts to get comfortable.

    The things that are in his favor of succeeding are, he is a very intelligent player, that has been a leader everywhere he has been, also, he is a gamer, that will play hard once he gets comfortable, finally, he's a 24/7 type player that will do the work, will be watching video for each game.

    I have not seen the game yet, but I did not expect to hear he was playing like a superstar considering, his age, his 0 experience in the NFL, and the fact he was rehabbing or on the sidelines all last year.
     
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    He’s such a hard worker and a grinder that he’s gonna watch so much film on this game to see what he did wrong.

    He is still a rookie. He’s not quite back yet.
     
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    Doesn't the Mike generally stay on the field during nickel? It doesn't necessarily mean he'll be dropping in coverage; you still need to respect the run. May also be a spy on more mobile QB's.
     
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    No, not on our team. The Mike went off the field last year. I think they play the most athletic 2 (Kiko/Timmons, Kiko/Anthony in 2017). The Mike (Hull/Allen/Mauluga) didn't do nickel.
     
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    No need to judge 1st game the guy ever played in. Hopefully he will get better
     
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    Good point. I would like to see Kwon, Kiko, and the big white guy as our LB's in base, and Baker/Anthony as the LB's in nickle. That could work out nicely if McMillan can handle the job, and all of these guys are young too.
     
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    Be patient. Raekwon was a genuine star at Ohio State and his leadership skills are natural. He needs to get more games under him and you will see why we drafted him in the 2nd round last year.
     
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    I am right there with you on Raekwon. Give it time, he needs NFL experience to get use to the speed and balancing how much he can do on the field without having lingering knee issues. I think it was on the 3 yards per carry podcast where I heard them say he had minor swelling.
     
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    People are excited about McMillian, but last night was his first game. How is that any different from fans being excited about Fitzpatrick or Gesicki or any other rookie in the league that hadn't played yet?
     
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    He plays mike. He needs to flash consistently.
     
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    His first meaningful snaps in over a year? Yeah I’ll wait another week or two before I hit any panic buttons
     
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    Think of it this way, yesterday was his first game time since his injury and was pretty much the anniversary of his injury. I imagine it was in his head a lot. Hopefully he gets past it next week.
     
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    I think everyone is rooting for this guy. He hasn't really played in a real game since the 2016 college season so it'll take some time. I just hope is not too long cause we need a real Mike out there.
     
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    Last night he played small. Bad angles. Poor body positioning. Easily moved. I'm not ready to call it an absolute given the injury recovery but it happened time and again.

    We might not see what we drafted until 2019
     
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    Drafted...1st pre-season game he was lost for the season. (Dont start me on Special Teams role) He's gone through intensive rehab training after a huge injury to get back to suiting up and actually tackling again and people are asking why he isn't making tackles in the backfield or putting in a Pro-Bowl performance after a few weeks of training and one pre-season game. Really? Reality check needed. Give him a break. Seriously.
     
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    Yeah. Because the Phins and us fans expect that year in, year out yeah? Come on.
     
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    You might be correct but let's hope not. I'm sure the coaches saw the same and will address that with him. Might be something correctable in the next 3 games.
     
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    I think some fans forget the team has coaches. Rookies and young players after an early injury are raw when it comes to the NFL and don't suddenly become Pro-Bowlers.
     
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    It was his first game as a ML in the NFL, on top of that, he's coming off a pretty bad knee injury. The coaches totally love this kid and they see him every day. He promoted Baker, his Ohio State teammate to the Dolphins brass and they snagged him in the 3rd round. We're very lucky to have 2 kids like #52 and #55, get used to seeing them fly to the football sideline to sideline. As long as McMillan is ready to Rock and Roll on opening day I'm good with it. Those 2 kids will make you proud if you give them a chance. What a draft!!!!!!!!!! Minkah, Gisecki, Baker, Ballage and Smythe and a couple other good prospects.

    We are going in the right direction. We have a lot of new parts that have to gel together and a bunch of new coaches but this teams is gaining strength every practice, every pre-season game and every day. BTW, #71, Sitton, looks pretty tough out there, he toughening up Laremy and teaching him to be a Pro.
     
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    Totally agree. People have talked him up like he’s an all pro.
     
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    The mike in this d should flash. I haven’t seen the game tape yet so I will reserve judgement. And even then Lawrence Timmons looked terrific in the preseason last year and the more he played in the regular season the older he looked.
     
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    I would encourage you to watch them play.

    As for scouting reports, the ones I read all focused on how Raekwon McMillan was one of the highest recruited Mike's out of high school, and how he was born to play the position. He was the brains of that Ohio State defense, organizing it and playing Mike exceptionally well. He is very instinctual at the position, and almost never makes a mis-step or mis-diagnosis. The kid is a Mike, pure and simple. Any report that cast him as a Sam, is probably off. Watching him play he is strong at the point of attack, a great tackler, and plays the run exceptionally well. He can also pass rush a little bit. So, I can see how someone might use him as a Sam … but this kids skills are pure Mike all the way.

    As conscientious and hard working as McMillan is … I'm just not sold on Baker having those same hard working qualities. Baker is tremendously fast, and has the talent, despite being safety-sized. But … he is going to need to prove it to me by putting in the film study, mastering the playbook, and refining his game before I'm going to feel confident playing Baker too much. He still has a long way to go, IMHO.

    The only thing that Baker has over McMillan is speed. McMillan is the more instinctual player, the better organizer, better tackler, better run defender, more mature, better prepared, more devoted to refining his craft, and more dependable player. I'd take McMillan over Baker 8 days a week. Now, I do hope that Baker adopts McMillan's work ethic, because Baker has a high ceiling. But, He hasn't really shown that he is devoted to reaching it yet. So, I need to see that.
     
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    One was lost a year ago almost to the day. The other 2 have played 12, to13 games since McMillian played 1 snap. Everyone here is worried about Ryan not playing in a year and half. McMillan played his last game2 months after Ryan and he was in college.
     
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    This is excellent, just what I was looking for. Thanks!
     
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    Well he made it more than one play this year so that's a plus.
     
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    patience is not a finheaven thing. you have to play fast RIGHT NOW!!!! I don't quite buy the narrative that spending a whole rookie season on IR
    with an NFL team makes you better than any rookie
     
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    I would be interested in the results of a mental evaluation of some members on this site. There has to be a handful of you with certifiable conditions related to paranoia and schizophrenia. There just is no other explanation for some of delusional thoughts that a consistently on display.
    The dude blew out his knee last year and just played in his first game back!!!!
    Unbelievable.
     

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