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Rapoport: Dolphins open to trading Waddle, benching Tua is on the table if he continues to struggle

danmarino7051 said:
A 63% comp rate, especially if you consider the bad drops etc, is OK and about league average. His 260 yards passing is near top of the league in passing yards per game. The 1 INT was just an attempt at nothing at that point. Yes it counts, but for 99% of the game Tua did what he had to do to help win the game. He wasn’t great, but he wasn’t awful or bad this last game.
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The 6.5 yards per attempt with no scores is pretty telling. That is Tua's average for the season roughly which is good for about 25th in the NFL. What the stats do not show is his inability to extend plays. The sack before half was pathetic, just throw it anywhere. The throw to Waddle I mentioned is where the stats really can be misleading. Tua gets credit for 1/1 for 30 yards... that is a great play on paper. The truth is, it should have been a TD and Waddle just about got decapitated on the play because of the ridiculous helium ball.
To be fair, we didn't lose because of Tua. The false start on 4th and 1 and subsequent missed chippy took the air out of the balloon. And yes, agreed that 260 yards is solid but on 40 throws with no scores is not. Perhaps it is unfair to call this game "awful" for Tua but the fact we are debating that this game is something other than that is also rather telling.
 
A1. said:
I was out on dart for similar reasons. He’s impressed me so far however.
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Dart is exceeding expectations in year 1. Kyler is below expectations in year 6 and on a second contract
 
danstilldaman said:
So benching Tua could be an option, isn't this article about 12 days late with that being a primary talking point in the article?

Tua was not even close to being the problem with the Miami Dolphins the last 2 games.
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He literally gave up grounded the football with a wide open lane to run and pick up the 2 yards.
 
Rockchalk said:
The 6.5 yards per attempt with no scores is pretty telling. That is Tua's average for the season roughly which is good for about 25th in the NFL. What the stats do not show is his inability to extend plays. The sack before half was pathetic, just throw it anywhere. The throw to Waddle I mentioned is where the stats really can be misleading. Tua gets credit for 1/1 for 30 yards... that is a great play on paper. The truth is, it should have been a TD and Waddle just about got decapitated on the play because of the ridiculous helium ball.
To be fair, we didn't lose because of Tua. The false start on 4th and 1 and subsequent missed chippy took the air out of the balloon. And yes, agreed that 260 yards is solid but on 40 throws with no scores is not. Perhaps it is unfair to call this game "awful" for Tua but the fact we are debating that this game is something other than that is also rather telling.
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I can agree with most of this. I just, like you wrote, don’t see a “blame Tua for the loss game” here. I think it’s hyperbole to claim he was awful, he wasn’t good per se, but he did enough that if others did their jobs we would have let the game at least closer.

Bottom line though, I am ready to move on from him. He just seems shot to me… whether that’s injury or mental, or both, I don’t know, but he’s definitely not plying like he has over the past three years. And he is responsible for getting himself hurt and losses from him not playing at too high of a rate. Thats why in week 3 of 2024 I was ready to start looking towards the future for a new QB.
 
artdnj said:
The problem is if McDaniel’s offense is tailored to to Tuas strengths and avoid his glaring weaknesses would another quarterback be able to have realized potential? Does McDaniel have a chapter in his playbook that has quarterback, sneaks,, quarterback runs, etc. or is it all quick snap and first read throw.

It seems like McDaniel doesn’t have the playbook for another quarterback with different traits to succeed, but maybe I’m wrong
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He kept Tyler Huntley in the pocket

He chose Mike white and Zach Wilson and stuck with Skyler Thomson for three years

Something ain’t right with him
 
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danstilldaman said:
The problem with Tua haters is that they are so distracted by whatever Tua does that they miss all the other problems that are within the organization.

Or they would rather lose games to reinforce their stance on Tua, that's of course that is a small extreme group, but those types are typically the loudest in the room.

I am far from a Tua apologist and only care about the overall success of the Miami Dolphins. I could care less to ever talk about Tua again, I'd rather talk about the next moves for the team I'm obsessed with. And I dont give a damn about what those extremists opinions when it comes to the Miami Dolphins.

Those type of people have no place in my life and don't deserve any of my energy.

Not calling you one of them by the way.
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There’s no problem with Tua haters or McDaniel haters or any regime haters for that matter

They were all right to hate because they all underachieved relative to their pay and performance and expectations

Complete regime failure so don’t hate on the haters anymore :)
 
Sticky Gloves said:
I think Ewers though is a good QB to play in the Tua system. Quick release. Quick processing. Accurate. Experience in this system. Sarkisian and McD run similar/same.

Like we've never had a halfway decent or interesting backup before. It's crazy how crap Grier has done at the position. I don't know if it's because of the whole Fitzmagic thing, and he didn't want controversy, but we've been running absolute garbage out there.
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I want to see Ewers get first team reps in practice and games please
 
Good_Dylan said:
He played scared and emotionless as evidenced in the fact he would not even chuck the hail mary when the situation called for it and the way he immediately turned his back to brace for even the slightest contact he might receive. Im not even going to mention the critical 4th down fade route he threw without even looking up to see if anyone was home to catch it.
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Nor the disgusting intentional grounding when he could of skipped to positive yardage because the whole field was clear to run
 
danmarino7051 said:
I can agree with most of this. I just, like you wrote, don’t see a “blame Tua for the loss game” here. I think it’s hyperbole to claim he was awful, he wasn’t good per se, but he did enough that if others did their jobs we would have let the game at least closer.

Bottom line though, I am ready to move on from him. He just seems shot to me… whether that’s injury or mental, or both, I don’t know, but he’s definitely not plying like he has over the past three years. And he is responsible for getting himself hurt and losses from him not playing at too high of a rate. Thats why in week 3 of 2024 I was ready to start looking towards the future for a new QB.
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At this point it's just pile on Tua. It's flipping pathetic, but whatever.

2 fumbles, a missed FG, stupid penalties from the O line, people blind and not accurately portraying the deep Waddle (catch/non catch). Yet Tua was the awful one. It's just sad and pathetic at this point.

Like you I am ready to move on from Tua. It's just sad to see these respected posters stupidly pile on Tua at this point. I'm not talking about all these posters that magically turned up this season. Also posters trying to conflate Tuas play this season with his previous 6 years. It's just truly pathetic.

The fact that these turds will never accept is Tua has played good enough this season for Miami to have 5 wins. But they don't care or won't admit it because of those 1 or 2 bad plays in his good game. They cant simply admit Tua is not as bad as they claim.

Just because you admit Tuas not the problem, doesn't mean you can't still believe it's time to move on or he just isn't the right QB in Miami. Which is where I think you and I are at
 
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