Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DKphin, Dec 4, 2017.
The pass blocking is impressive. Something Ajayi didn't care to do before he was traded. I don't think Drake can be a bell cow unless he puts on a lot more muscle but I do like that he runs hard every time. He has a nice jump cut and his acceleration is his biggest asset.
I actually thought Sinorice Perry ran well yesterday too, in his limited action.
106 of his 120 yards after contact? what?
hard to do when you go untouched for 42 yards
The question I have is what did Joseph do to their defense? Didn't they have a great defense last year? If Burke is following Joseph's lead then what does that say about our defensive strategy? Normally our offense sucks and really struggles. You have to be pretty damn bad to make us look so good.
broncos run d has been bad all year...they were missing talib and put a safety in the nickel slot...I'm surprised we didn't expose that more
plus that team has thrown in the towel...too much on the d qb sucking the life out of the rest of the roster...unlike us they know how to lose when they should...
von miller will get his sack per game and they will either acquire a qb with a top pick or sign a top free agent. I'd bet on the latter
He was definitely touched on that 42 yarder. He stiff armed a guy
Was actually touched right at the line and then broke a tackle by 54
Come on Hoops don't be like that. Of course everything you've posted is valid. But give the kid some props. He's shown more than some people thought he was capable of and appears to be able to do more with more touches and experience.
Denver's run d has only been bad on the road where they give up about 43 yards more than they do at home. Overall they still give up under 100 yards rushing per game.
I've seen him absolutely light up some D linemen in pass pro...
Not to take anything away from Drake who I really like but when you take that 42 yard run away(I know you can't) he had 78 yards on the other 22 carries=3.5 ypa
Again, is not putting him down but it shows how that O-line needs a lot of help. Plenty of times he got hit at or behind the LOS
I'm no scout, but I thought Drake played great.
Two things I didn't agree with:
How can anyone downplay the 42 yard run? I thought it was awesome, I'm not sure he wasn't touched in the first hole where he juked a guy coming straight through, but if not he certainly was touched within about 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.
So now we take our backs best run away every game to see what they averaged? Got news for you, no back gives you straight 4 yards a carry every game. I would hesitate to guess if you took EVERY backs longest run of every game ( for maths sake, if a back ran 20 times and had a long of 20, that would take his average down a full yard) you'd have a bunch of backs averaging under 4 yards a carry.
106 after contact is impressive, at least to me, I love to watch him run, it's better than watching Cutler throw.
Take away these runs:
Lynch had a 51. So 16 for 50
Ingram had a 72 so 13 att for 13 yards otherwise lol
Fournette had a 24 so 19 att for 33 yards...
I mean it's ridiculous to throw a backs long run out, ridiculous. It shows nothing. My opinion Drake is a great number 2 in my mind. I always like my number one to be a bruiser and Drake can easily carry the load if needed.
Like I said on my post which I guess you didn't read all the way, I wasn't putting him down. I said the OLINE needs a lot of help and I said he was getting hit at or behind the LOS plenty of times. I know we can't take away his best run but I was just pointing out that our run game is still not very good and it has not being consistent all year. Hope you get what I'm saying this time
All these years we have been looking for a home run threat at running back and now we have one but he is being critiqued . I don't understand sometimes . I remember watching the great Barry Sanders dancing around . At times he would get short gains and sometime loss of yardage and then all of sudden he breaks one for 50 yards . Isn't that what you want in a running back . Explosiveness . Do you want a wide receiver that consistently gets 8 yards a catch but can't give you a 4o plus catch or a guy that can give you a deep one at any moment . Drake is looking better and better in all aspects of his game. His pass blocking was very noticeable and helped Cutler in a big way. Wait till they learn how to create a screen pass for #32, that's gonna be scary. Say he put's on 10 lbs of muscle on the offseason , we got a heck uv a back next year! The kid has been a blessing lately. This helps the passing game too , especially the play action.
"I know you can't" and that should of been the end of your post.
Ummm be like what? I was just answering the question regarding what happened to the Broncos d this year the post before mine.
The run d has been the weakness in the d it’s not as bad as the qb play which is really why their season is over more than anything else. O line attrition and play has played into it too at times but the qb play like miamis in 2017 is the major season ender
Now as for Drake’s td run maybe he did stiff arm a guy at the 2nd level if he did it sure didn’t look like he made much contact but the sweet move on the play was the cut at the los to make the first guy miss. If he was touched there at all it was shoe tops
To my eye he was pulled down in the backfield by the first man multiple times and tackled more than I’d want in a lead back on first contact.
It looked like a guy to me best as a 2nd option in a duo which is better than it looked to me to start the season when he barely got a sniff and when he did he bounced everything
I would look to pair it in 2018 with something more true between the tackles
Gase's philosophy on running backs.
Running back: Not only is Kenyan Drake making the most of his opportunity (120 yards rushing Sunday, 4.9 yards per carry on the season), but this comment from Adam Gase on Friday was very telling:
“I don’t know if I’m ever going to have feature back-type situations. I like using multiple guys. I like guys moving in and out and I like having guys that can do multiple things and really put pressure on the defense where they can’t focus on one thing. I don’t know. We might be out of that game.”
With Drake playing well, that doesn’t sound like a coach who wants to draft a back in the first round. Yes, one will be drafted. But you can find a quality rotational running back later in the draft.
I would say seeing what Drake looks like that’s probably true. Paired with a mid round between the tackles back.
Gun to my head right now I’d say og quenton nelson top pick for Miami in the top 12.
Maybe a de if one grades out high enough.
I’m struggling with lb considering they traded a pick for Anthony and he’s playing more to give them looks for the future and looking like he may be an answer. Getting Raekwon back they will bank on too and kikos going nowhere
I don’t see corner safety or dt in play with what they have in house
RB is the least of our concerns. If we can get an elite prospect like Barkley in the draft you have to consider it, but I have no problem at all riding with Williams, Drake, Perry next year. We have a lot bigger holes to figure out.
Drake had a 'can't win' game. Run well = bad D. Run poorly = he's a bad back
I recall hearing Denver was #4 against the run before, or early into the game last night. According to these links, they are around 4 or 5.
That does not make Drake the next coming of Ricky Williams, but let's not rob him of credit he deserves.
Very true that's not a bad run D. I don't know where that came from. Drake is only the 2nd guy to rush for over 100 against Denver this year
Screen passes are only scary for the team that calls them.
Drake had a very good game. Kept his feet moving in traffic and had lots of energy.
I never get excited about scatbacks of that caliber. Invariably it's hit and miss, an occasional big game followed by lofty projections and then not much going on. Drake has been a known quantity for a long time. He's not 21. He's a month shy of 24, which is approaching mid career for a running back. You can go back to his Alabama days and have similar excitement from the fan base after an occasional big play or return. Then he looks like backup caliber again, or simply not special. It's like Bernard with the Bengals, who always teases that fan base with sporadic clever runs but invariably they are trying to replace him, including Mixon this year.
I think Drake conceded he hadn't carried the ball that much in a game since high school. That means multiple coaches did think it was warranted.
Nice complimentary player but if Gase thinks he can win the league via cute swing passes to a back of that caliber then we're in worse shape than I imagined.
So you guys think the pass d in Denver with those 3 corners is worse than the run d?
Games I’ve seen of em this year the run d was the weakness if they had one
Doesn’t help that a very good player in Derek Wolfe missed either but I’m sure if I mentioned that it would have been taken as a knock on Drake somehow. Peko also missed but he’s not as big a piece as Wolfe
Why can't both aspects be good? They are 4th and 5th respectively in both categories. It's not a either or thing
sign me up
Ya dude I really like Drake. He's taller than you'd like at Rb but he is strong as hell. I really like the acceleration and the fact he always keeps his feet churning. Just hold onto the ball!!! lol
If seems that unless we say a player is going to the HOF then it means we think the guy sucks. Some people just see what they want to see I guess
Kenyon Drake has got himself a place at the table!