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Realtalk: DON"T give up guys,the playoff are still in sight

PCmor said:
Not necessarily. Depends whether you think this organization is getting there because the plan is working or they're just fortunate, and whether you think it's going to keep improving.

Put it this way: Would you rather make the playoffs this season, lose in the first round, have next year's team take a step back, then probably clean house and go through another rebuild or partial rebuild that keeps them out of the playoffs and mediocre-to-bad for another three years, or would you rather miss out on the playoffs, make necessary changes, have a higher draft pick, better resources to construct a better team and potentially better evaluators and coaches to do that, leading to a team that makes the playoffs three times in the next five years and has a better chance to win there? I'd take the second.
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Isn't the second alternative what we had the last 10 years with the exception of 2008? Missing the playoffs with a chance to do it right? How's that worked out?

I'd love to make the playoffs. Who knows what happens there. The problem is: I can't see it with this team. We're just not good enough. Players, Coaches, General Manager, not a single one is playoff-worthy this year.
This is how this season will turn out: we will win against Jets, sneak by the Steelers, and just when every other fan gets his hopes up for a playoff run we will lose to the Patriots. We will be 7-7 with the Bills and Jets coming up and we will lose those two in heartbreaking fashion to finish 7-9 yet again. That's my Miami Dolphins.
 
Spiff said:
Isn't the second alternative what we had the last 10 years with the exception of 2008? Missing the playoffs with a chance to do it right? How's that worked out?

I'd love to make the playoffs. Who knows what happens there. The problem is: I can't see it with this team. We're just not good enough. Players, Coaches, General Manager, not a single one is playoff-worthy this year.
This is how this season will turn out: we will win against Jets, sneak by the Steelers, and just when every other fan gets his hopes up for a playoff run we will lose to the Patriots. We will be 7-7 with the Bills and Jets coming up and we will lose those two in heartbreaking fashion to finish 7-9 yet again. That's my Miami Dolphins.
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Yep. This is what happens EVERY year! So over it.

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Spiff said:
Isn't the second alternative what we had the last 10 years with the exception of 2008? Missing the playoffs with a chance to do it right? How's that worked out?
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No, actually that's not what happened. What happened was that we were sticking around the middle and were sold a bill of goods that we were close and didn't make many/enough significant changes. The first is when you try to replace your coach, get rebuffed and then give your coach an extension, then fire him halfway through the year. The first is giving your GM an extension before seeing enough results on the field. The first is making the playoffs in 2008 and deviating from your plan about how to build a consistent winner by drafting a part-time, poor-fit QB with a second round pick. The first is saddling your new coach with your old GM.

So how has that worked?
 
#1Phins said:
Please stop talking about playoff
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#1Phins said:
this team is not going anywhere, and if they do is one and out they can't score.
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Oh so you do want to talk about playoffs. Ok, we outscored two current division leaders and the last I looked we have the same record as the titans who are the the current 6th seed. We lost a meaningless NFC game, which many said we would get crushed or shut out. So until we are eliminated , people will talk playoffs. Don't like it , don't enter playoff threads.
 
As bad as it all seems right now, according to the playoff ticker, if we win on Sunday, we replace the Titans for the 6th seed. That's with all other 5-6 teams winning also (including the Titans). You know the way this season is playing out, this team will win Sunday, and have us excited for yet another week. Then the week after that, KABOOM! We are down again.
 
JayCee said:
As bad as it all seems right now, according to the playoff ticker, if we win on Sunday, we replace the Titans for the 6th seed. That's with all other 5-6 teams winning also (including the Titans). You know the way this season is playing out, this team will win Sunday, and have us excited for yet another week. Then the week after that, KABOOM! We are down again.
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Baltimore beat us, so how can we be ahead of them if they win this week and we win?
 
I understand people not thinking the Fins are going to make the playoffs - that makes sense. What makes absolutely no sense is people hoping they don't so that people can be fired - that's just crazy. Why are you a fan? Don't think about next year if they have a chance to make it this year. Who the heck knows what next year brings. Changes in the front office might happen anyways even if they do make the playoffs and they might not happen even if they don't make the playoffs. That seems crazy to me to root for them not to make the playoffs! I think they've proven they can play with the teams they'd be playing in the 1st rd anyways - not saying they'd win but it would be a game!
 
Roman529 said:
If If's and buts, were candy and nuts....... we are not a playoff team. You don't lose like we did today, or like we did to Tampa, Baltimore, Buffalo, etc., and make the playoffs.
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Not true. Why is San Diego a playoff team if they lost to Miami? Why is Pittsburgh a playoff team when they started 0-4? Why are the Jets a playoff team when their QB doesn't throw TDs? Why is Tennessee a playoff team when they have Fitzpatrick at QB?

Baltimore is the only exception b/c of what they did last year. Everyone is 5-6 for their own reasons. If any of those teams are contenders, the Dolphins have to be as well.

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dolphinron said:
Baltimore beat us, so how can we be ahead of them if they win this week and we win?
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Baltimore would be ahead of Miami if they beat Pittsburgh on Thanksgiving (assuming Miami wins).

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PCmor said:
Not necessarily. Depends whether you think this organization is getting there because the plan is working or they're just fortunate, and whether you think it's going to keep improving.

Put it this way: Would you rather make the playoffs this season, lose in the first round, have next year's team take a step back, then probably clean house and go through another rebuild or partial rebuild that keeps them out of the playoffs and mediocre-to-bad for another three years, or would you rather miss out on the playoffs, make necessary changes, have a higher draft pick, better resources to construct a better team and potentially better evaluators and coaches to do that, leading to a team that makes the playoffs three times in the next five years and has a better chance to win there? I'd take the second.
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I don't think it's fair to answer that b/c there's no certainty it will go how you say it might. Live in the now. Make the playoffs now and see what happens. To me it's the best scenario we as fans could hope for. The rest of the AFC Wild Card teams are having off years? Take advantage.
 
My heart says "Please win out and go into the playoffs with momentum." My head says "No way jack!" Only time will tell which is right.
 
dolphinron said:
Baltimore beat us, so how can we be ahead of them if they win this week and we win?
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Because tiebreaker rules change when there is more than two teams in the mix with same record. When there are more than two teams, it goes to conference record. If you have any doubt, just play around with the scenarios. Youll see with a Dolphin win Sunday, we take the 6th spot. It doesn't matter if Pitt, Balt, or Tennessee win on Sunday.

Heres the link:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine
 
Playoffs would be a major coup. We have no running game, no offensive line, below average special teams and a QB that has to play one-dimensional football all game (3-long constantly). Out D is better than we give it credit for. It's amazing we have 5 wins.
 
See all hope is not lost ...

T- HIll and WAllace are starting to click
THe Defense is hurt but still playing together
And I Think JOe a hell of a coach........
 
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good job mia on having faith. Some posters can take a lesson.

Now, get out there and project a Super Bowl for us!! :)
 
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