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Reminder!! We Could Have Had Dan Campbell!!

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I actually forgot that Dan was on our staff from 2011-2015 as a TE's coach then became our interim HC when Philbin was fired in 2015. He had a 5-7 record as interim Fins HC.

Dan interviewed for the HC, but the Dolphins gave the job to Adam Gase (what a joke) who had no HC experience whatsoever coming from the Bears. This happened 5 days after...wait for..Chris Grier was hired as our GM!! I am not sure if CG had influence on that decision but if so, this was the first of his many blunders as GM!! Campbell left the Dolphins when we didn't hire him as HC and Sean Payton quickly snatched him up as an assistant (Payton knows talent)!

We could have had Dan Campbell:
  • A former very good NFL player: 114 NFL starts (has been in the trenches and is respected by his players)
  • Strong Disciplinarian: would not tolerate the current Dolphin culture as it is today.
  • Good communicator: You know where you stand with him! He's not a BS kind of person!
  • No personal issues!
  • He has turned an abysmal Detroit organizing from one of the worst to one of the best in the NFL in less than 4 seasons!!
What we got:
  • A little weasel with no NFL experience (he has to be validated by buddying up to his players because they don't respect him).
  • Demands no accountability of players.
  • Does not enforce any discipline of his players.
  • Terrible communicator (bumbles and stumbles around) You never get a straight answer with this guy!
  • Indecisive game day coach (can't get plays in time, and his time out usage is horrific).
  • Public knowledge that he had alcohol issues prior to hiring him!
  • Dolphin's ship and organization are sinking fast with this guy at the helm!
Did I miss anything here?
 
The same Dan Campbell we picked Gase over is not the same Dan Campbell the lions hired.

To his minimal credit, apparently Ross was torn between the decision at the time.

I do wonder sometimes what the team would look like if we hired Campbell over Flores, but that's under the bridge at this point.
 
You put a lot of work into your post, but Campbell willingly left Miami when he didn’t get the head coach position in 2016. He had no interest in staying on our staff (which he was offered to do). He had to wait 4 more years before he was offered a HC position. I do not think he would have had success in Miami without his experience under Payton.
 
As many have already said in other threads, Campbell admitted he probably wasn’t ready to be a head coach and learned a lot under Sean Payton which helped him. Here’s an article from Dec 2018 that talks about it…

www.espn.com

Benefits of mentor Sean Payton? Dan Campbell is ready to be a head coach

After three seasons of working under the Saints' leader, assistant head coach Dan Campbell says his experience has "been helpful" for future jobs.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
talk til yall are blue in the face, someone is still going to say it. Its like when i hear all the time about how my Hornets traded Kobe Bryant on draft night... he was never going to play for us, he said LA or he'd sit out a year and come back the next year. Hornets drafted Kobe FOR the Lakers.

Campbell had the guys fired up the first couple games. but ultimately he learnd a **** load more about X and O's from Payton then he ever could Philbin.
 
While we didn’t need the reminder (nor did we need the Herbert reminder that preceded this), I will give some credit for the spot-on nature of the opinions.

Also, I will beg of everyone who is saying “we wouldn’t have gotten today’s Dan Campbell, because he wasn’t ready to be a head coach”, can we please stop with this line of reasoning?

Maybe the actual reminder we need is that we’ve hired McDaniel, Flores, Gase, Philbin, Sparano since 2008. Exactly NONE OF THEM were ready to be head coaches. The idea that Dan Campbell getting away isn’t a mistake because “he wasn’t ready” is just lazy. He actually had more experience than any of these clowns, BECAUSE HE WAS AN NFL HEAD COACH FOR 12 GAMES!!!

Edit: Don’t come at me with “Campbell himself said he wasn’t ready.” Of course he did. He’s looking back on his progression now with 20/20 hindsight. He left Miami, he grew, he assisted a great coach, and now he is a great coach. He’s not going to say publicly “I deserved the Miami job and I’d have them at the top of the NFL right now.”
 
It's water under the bridge. Yes, we would have all loved Dan Campbell, but even he admitted his time in New Orleans was invaluable.

Nothing we can do now, but move forward.
 
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VAFinsfan72 said:
Gase wasn't ready either. All this franchise does is make bad decisions.
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Flores wasn’t ready. McDaniel wasn’t ready. Philbin wasn’t ready. Sparano wasn’t ready. We seem to be able to spot coaches who “are not ready” with a very keen eye. Somehow, we failed to spot Dan Campbell after he was our coach for 12 games. Probably because he was ready, but we prefer losers who are not ready.
 
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